RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 21, 2018 at 2:15 pm
(March 20, 2018 at 4:46 pm)SteveII Wrote: It stands to reason that if you define something you exclude everything else that does not meet that definition. Does this mean you are making some sort of claims about everything else that does not fit the definition or does it give the everything else so sort of status that it did not have before? No, that's silly.
But here's the problem specifically with KCA.
The set of everything that begins to exist, contains everything we encounter in the universe.
Besides your god, what else is in the excluded set of things that do not begin to exist?
If your set of exclusions (things that do not begin to exist) does not contain anything but your god, then you are smuggling the conclusion into the first premise.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
