Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: September 29, 2024, 12:44 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 1 Vote(s) - 5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Another hypothetical for theists.
#66
RE: Another hypothetical for theists.
(March 23, 2018 at 3:52 pm)Grandizer Wrote: And you are changing the argument anyway, because the initial argument had nothing to do with the intelligibility of the world.

The intelligibility of the world and the effictiveness of reason have EVERYTHING to do with the argument. The underlying assumption of the thought problem is that there can even be some kind of world without God. It assumes that you can get mathematics, physics, consciousness, and a rationally ordered universe for free i.e. that it is possible for there to be something rather than nothing without God. I'm not even willing to grant you the premise of the dumb little thought problem (that a world without God is possible)...the thought problem you got from Richard Carrier.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Another hypothetical for theists. - by ignoramus - March 22, 2018 at 3:55 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 22, 2018 at 4:12 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Pat Mustard - March 22, 2018 at 7:41 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by vulcanlogician - March 22, 2018 at 7:45 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by emjay - March 22, 2018 at 11:23 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Whateverist - March 22, 2018 at 2:42 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 22, 2018 at 7:14 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by RoadRunner79 - March 22, 2018 at 7:09 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Edwardo Piet - March 22, 2018 at 7:30 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 22, 2018 at 8:24 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 22, 2018 at 10:04 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by brewer - March 22, 2018 at 8:41 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 22, 2018 at 9:05 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 22, 2018 at 9:50 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by RoadRunner79 - March 22, 2018 at 9:55 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 22, 2018 at 1:10 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 22, 2018 at 10:16 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Losty - March 22, 2018 at 9:38 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by possibletarian - March 23, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 22, 2018 at 1:07 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Edwardo Piet - March 22, 2018 at 9:38 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 22, 2018 at 3:34 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 22, 2018 at 9:25 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 22, 2018 at 10:24 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Edwardo Piet - March 22, 2018 at 9:40 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by ignoramus - March 22, 2018 at 5:53 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 22, 2018 at 10:38 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 22, 2018 at 11:27 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by RoadRunner79 - March 22, 2018 at 11:42 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 22, 2018 at 11:45 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by ignoramus - March 22, 2018 at 11:50 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 22, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 12:54 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2018 at 9:18 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 10:02 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 23, 2018 at 10:09 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2018 at 10:37 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 11:31 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2018 at 12:45 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 3:52 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2018 at 5:40 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 9:54 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Succubus - March 24, 2018 at 7:13 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 24, 2018 at 9:04 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 24, 2018 at 1:24 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 24, 2018 at 9:24 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2018 at 7:02 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 23, 2018 at 7:29 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 10:02 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 23, 2018 at 3:15 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 23, 2018 at 11:23 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Whateverist - March 23, 2018 at 3:24 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 23, 2018 at 3:35 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Whateverist - March 23, 2018 at 3:39 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 23, 2018 at 3:42 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 23, 2018 at 6:43 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 23, 2018 at 6:54 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by ignoramus - March 23, 2018 at 7:05 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by ignoramus - March 23, 2018 at 8:43 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 23, 2018 at 9:46 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 10:08 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 23, 2018 at 11:37 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 24, 2018 at 5:49 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 24, 2018 at 11:55 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 24, 2018 at 12:26 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 24, 2018 at 2:18 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by possibletarian - March 23, 2018 at 11:39 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Godscreated - March 23, 2018 at 1:45 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Amarok - March 23, 2018 at 9:30 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by PaulieLoafer - March 23, 2018 at 10:20 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 23, 2018 at 10:39 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Amarok - March 23, 2018 at 11:10 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by drfuzzy - March 23, 2018 at 6:36 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Amarok - March 23, 2018 at 6:44 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Amarok - March 23, 2018 at 9:58 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Amarok - March 23, 2018 at 10:05 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Amarok - March 24, 2018 at 1:00 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 24, 2018 at 2:11 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  just another god hypothetical ... ignoramus 55 9579 July 14, 2021 at 3:59 pm
Last Post: arewethereyet
  Constructing the image of the hypothetical God Aegon 9 2152 February 5, 2016 at 7:39 pm
Last Post: comet
  Questions for theists (and ex-theists, too) Longhorn 15 5272 April 23, 2015 at 3:42 pm
Last Post: orangebox21
  Theists: What makes your claims right and the claims of other theists wrong? Ryantology 29 8901 March 21, 2014 at 9:59 am
Last Post: Phatt Matt s
  Another Prayer Question For Theists BrianSoddingBoru4 40 14991 August 6, 2013 at 7:49 am
Last Post: Esquilax
  A Jesus hypothetical Gooders1002 7 2669 December 16, 2012 at 6:15 am
Last Post: Justtristo



Users browsing this thread: 6 Guest(s)