RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 27, 2018 at 4:07 pm
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2018 at 4:16 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(March 25, 2018 at 8:45 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: RoadRunner, you have a problem with your argument. Kalam supports any deity of choice. Yahweh, Allah, Odin whatever. You have no option but to accept that gods which are not yours must also exist.
It also supports vacuum fluctuations as a cause of the universe.
(March 25, 2018 at 9:09 am)polymath257 Wrote: Very few.
Now, why does that not happen? Because of the size of Planck's constant. It is a small enough number, and it controls the rate of 'popping' in such a way that larger masses are less likely (exponentially) to 'pop' than are smaller masses.
So, for example, electron-positron pairs are far more likely than muon-anti-muon pairs simply because a muon is around 200 times the mass of an electron. Both types of 'popping' are still pretty common, though. When you get to something the mass of a proton, the probability (and thereby the rate) of 'popping into existence' is far, far lower. For larger atomic nuclei, the probability is so low, it doesn't tend to happen in practice. For something like a molecule, we would have to wait longer than the age of the universe for a 'pop' to happen.
So, you wanted to know why we don't see an elephant 'pop into existence'. That is the reason: elephants have way too large of a mass to make the probability of 'popping' significant.
Not to mention every electron and positron that appeared would have to happen to be in exactly the right position to make an elephant. And if it did happen (the number of universes required to make it halfway likely has more zeroes than I can wrap my head around), it would probably be in space, and the poor thing would die right away.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.