RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 30, 2018 at 9:41 am
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2018 at 9:59 am by LadyForCamus.)
(March 29, 2018 at 2:07 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(March 28, 2018 at 12:17 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: So, this is really interesting, and relevant to the OP.
On the one hand, you accept the extraordinary testimony of a priest that a light is god, and you accept the extraordinary testimony of a miraculous healing, but you do not accept mundane testimony that a man was seen faking his crutches, and you do not accept Upshaw’s own testimony that he hadn’t been bed or wheelchair bound for twenty years, which would make Branham a liar. So, testimony is sufficient evidence only when it confirms your pre-conclusions? Got it.
You've provided no testimony / proof stating that Upshaw has been faking a disability for 66 years.
That’s clearly not what I said. Let’s try this again. Upshaw is quoted as saying he hasn’t been bed/wheelchair bound in twenty years, which directly contradicts the picture Branham painted of him for the purposes of his ‘healing’ services:
Quote:In a 1915 article in the Shreveport Times, Upshaw claims that his bedridden state lasted only seven years. In fact, he claimed that it had been twenty years prior when he used a wheelchair.
Quote:"The name of 'Earnest Willie' was given me when I was on bed for seven years dictating letters for the papers, and it stayed by me for a while nearly twenty years ago when I used to lecture from a rolling chair, but now I am a man -- the editor of one paper, the husband of one wife and the daddy of a red-headed baby girl and I guess it is time for me to be called the husband of Mrs. William D. Upshaw."
- Congressman William D. Upshaw, The Times, Sat May 8, 1915.
But...
Quote:The picture of William Upshaw that has been painted into the minds of William Branham's followers is that of a frail, old man who was destined to a crippled life in a wheelchair. William Branham often mentions how the Congressman was so bad off that he had to be wheeled around, carried on beds, and practically unable to function. But in the newspapers, we find Upshaw travelling around in convoys of automobiles, walking around freely using his crutches, and speaking to multiple audiences per day -- both for policical speeches and evangelistic sermons. And those who paid close attention in the United States Congress noticed that something was not quite right with his stride while using crutches. It appears that the Congressman was using his crutches as a prop, often running through the floor without touching them to the ground.
Additionally, there exists third party testimony that Upshaw was seen faking his crutches, which corroborates the notion that he was exaggerating the seriousness of his disability for Branham’s purposes.
So who is lying, Huggy? Branham or Upshaw? Or, are you lying for Jesus?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.