RE: Berkeley's argument for the existence of God
March 29, 2018 at 4:17 pm
(This post was last modified: March 29, 2018 at 4:19 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 29, 2018 at 4:15 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: The thing is Khem, ideas are sometimes blue. Nothing in the material world is. This at least says something of a distinction between ideas and material things. There are qualities that only pertain to ideas and not physical matter. That's the starting point for the argument anyway.... Your going to make me dig out Hylas and Philonous here.
While I disagree with you, there's no need to. The issue of contention is not whether or not something is blue. It;s whether or not some x has mass and occupies space.
If -this- is the difference between the material or immaterial...not "blueness"....then -this- is all that would be relevant to whether or not an idea was material or immaterial. If some x was not blue, or did not posess blueness...but did have mass and occupied space..it;s lack or possession of blueness is moot. An idea can be unlike any other material thing in many ways..and still be similar in that one integral and relevant way. Just as the oidea of an elephant and an elephant can be different..while both have mass and occupy space.
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