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Things that change us
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RE: Things that change us
(March 31, 2018 at 4:31 pm)Mr.Obvious Wrote:
(March 30, 2018 at 11:31 pm)Godscreated Wrote:  God a crux, not hardly. God guides us and enables us to make good decisions in our lives, He never forces us to make a decision.

GC

If there is a god, of course. Which is wher we differ of course.
And depending on the kind of god you believe in. Goes to say. I didn't realise it at the time. But the god i used to believe in wouldn't allow for guidance, it'd be total control over our fate and will.

God would never do that, he created us to make choices, we see this with Adam and Eve. God taught them and gave them guidance but allowed them to make a choice that change creation and the future of mankind. Jesus said I have come to give the blind sight, meaning we can have that spiritual sight if we desire it, it's not forced upon us.

GC

(March 31, 2018 at 5:39 pm)*Deidre* Wrote:
(March 31, 2018 at 1:10 am)Godscreated Wrote: Thank you for asking, I've been a Christian and active in God's work for many years. I grew up going to church but it was later (mid twenties) that I came to Christ as my savior. It was even later that I took what I had committed to seriously and it was then that God changed my life in many wonderful ways. Living for Him gave me real purpose in life and God then gave me the personal evidence to know who He was and why he did the things recorded in the scriptures. Believe me this has brought a peace to my life that is unexplainable and gives me hope of a life eternally better.

Why have you left Christianity if you don't mind telling me?

GC

I've shared it here before, but the abbreviated version is that I just gradually turned away from prayer life, the Bible, and really believing what I had been indoctrinated to believe. I actually believe in Jesus' existence, and many spiritual values that can be found throughout different belief systems. I just don't follow ''religion'' anymore. I've come to my own understanding of God, and the universe. I have a lot of peace that I didn't have before as a Christian or as an atheist. That said, atheism makes logical sense to me. I was an atheist for a few years, that's when I first came to this site, shortly after I left Christianity.

So when you were a kid, you kind of just went through the motions?

 Didn't even do much of that, God worked with me for years before I came to understand what it meant to have that personal relationship with Him. God never gave up on me and I knew He was there reaching out to help me despite my selfish ways. God loves us and will always work with the willing and stand beside the rebellious to guide them home.
 I'm not sure how you can have and/ or live a spiritual life without God. I know the other world religions say they can live a spiritual life without the God of the Bible, but to me it's an impossibility because without the God of the Bible we would have no God. I think many Christians become complacent because they practice religion instead of living in a personal living relationship with God. Going through the motions will only dull the senses and lead to an apathetic life. Being involved in your own life with God brings a life fulfilled and full of a happiness of serving others for the glory of God. Seeing people appreciate you because God has chosen to work through you for them brings a great feeling of being needed and loved.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Messages In This Thread
Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 28, 2018 at 10:37 pm
RE: Things that change us - by ignoramus - March 28, 2018 at 10:53 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 28, 2018 at 10:57 pm
RE: Things that change us - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 11:10 pm
RE: Things that change us - by The Grand Nudger - March 28, 2018 at 11:18 pm
RE: Things that change us - by energizer bunny - March 29, 2018 at 2:04 am
RE: Things that change us - by stretch3172 - March 29, 2018 at 2:20 am
RE: Things that change us - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 29, 2018 at 3:26 am
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 29, 2018 at 7:37 am
RE: Things that change us - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 29, 2018 at 8:17 am
RE: Things that change us - by Angrboda - March 29, 2018 at 6:50 am
RE: Things that change us - by vorlon13 - March 29, 2018 at 7:00 am
RE: Things that change us - by Martian Mermaid - March 29, 2018 at 7:01 am
RE: Things that change us - by WinterHold - March 29, 2018 at 7:44 am
RE: Things that change us - by Little lunch - March 29, 2018 at 10:01 am
RE: Things that change us - by Raven Orlock - March 29, 2018 at 4:24 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 29, 2018 at 4:42 pm
RE: Things that change us - by c172 - March 29, 2018 at 4:42 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - March 30, 2018 at 2:30 am
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - March 30, 2018 at 6:43 am
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - March 30, 2018 at 11:31 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 30, 2018 at 11:37 pm
RE: Things that change us - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2018 at 11:41 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 30, 2018 at 11:43 pm
RE: Things that change us - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2018 at 11:44 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 30, 2018 at 11:46 pm
RE: Things that change us - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2018 at 11:48 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - March 31, 2018 at 1:10 am
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 31, 2018 at 5:39 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - March 31, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - April 1, 2018 at 12:38 am
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - April 1, 2018 at 2:28 am
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - April 1, 2018 at 3:23 am
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - April 2, 2018 at 12:08 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - April 3, 2018 at 9:22 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - April 4, 2018 at 7:03 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Astreja - March 30, 2018 at 3:20 am
RE: Things that change us - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 30, 2018 at 6:46 am
RE: Things that change us - by Whateverist - March 30, 2018 at 7:06 am
RE: Things that change us - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2018 at 2:01 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Antares - March 30, 2018 at 2:36 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 30, 2018 at 6:56 pm
RE: Things that change us - by The Valkyrie - March 30, 2018 at 7:04 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 30, 2018 at 7:05 pm
RE: Things that change us - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2018 at 8:04 pm
RE: Things that change us - by c172 - March 30, 2018 at 7:46 pm
RE: Things that change us - by J a c k - March 30, 2018 at 11:54 pm
RE: Things that change us - by WinterHold - March 31, 2018 at 12:13 am
RE: Things that change us - by J a c k - March 31, 2018 at 12:25 am
RE: Things that change us - by WinterHold - March 31, 2018 at 1:07 am
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 31, 2018 at 12:16 am
RE: Things that change us - by WinterHold - March 31, 2018 at 12:25 am
RE: Things that change us - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2018 at 12:22 am
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 31, 2018 at 12:28 am
RE: Things that change us - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2018 at 12:36 am
RE: Things that change us - by WinterHold - March 31, 2018 at 1:13 am
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - April 2, 2018 at 12:21 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - April 2, 2018 at 1:59 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - April 5, 2018 at 1:59 am
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - April 11, 2018 at 5:35 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - April 16, 2018 at 12:47 am
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - April 2, 2018 at 3:32 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - April 3, 2018 at 9:49 pm

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