Arguments for God in Quran.

[The Grand Nudger]

-further, a reading of his own arguments that does follow would simply be that "real" moral guidance doesn't exist, even though moral guidance does - because the implicational relationship between them even if we accept them only flows one way.  Oh well.

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@Stretch
If/only/if -- xnor can;t be applied to statements such as the one contained in premise two...you've just established why.  

A biconditional is a valid argument, but the natural language employed is not a bi conditional.  Hilariously...I've been explaining this to Mystic since he was a deist.......in the absence of a sufficient -and- necessary relationship, we aren't discussing a biconditional.

I agree that it doesn't exist in the natural language, but it can be converted into a biconditional because the basic assumption is that moral guidance exists if and only if a God also exists to give said guidance. In other words, the source of moral guidance can only be God and nothing else.

"real moral guidance"..mind, lol....

at which point we take an invalid argument, make it valid..and it falls to an unsound premise...while still leaving open the possibility that there simply is no "real moral guidance". I personally think that this has to be the absolute worst way to go about attempting to prove a god...because it fails to do so, and in that failure, potentially destroys the very thing referred to in it's opening gambit.

There are better ways to express the articles of ones faith, in argument, imo.