(April 2, 2018 at 7:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(April 2, 2018 at 7:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yes, but hanging around like minded people DOES NOT nor ever should be so dogmatic that you cant see those outside as being as human as you. YOU JUST DID IT by liking a poem not written by a Muslim.
I hang out here because I can relate to atheists, but that does NOT mean I agree with every atheist. Just like you and Atlass are both Muslim but don't agree on everything.
Even with YOUR poem, I RELATED to the empathy, even though I didn't agree with where you think that empathy came from. I'D argue the same thing with Catholic Lady if she wrote the poem instead of you.
POINT IS and always has been for me, WE ARE ALL HUMAN, clubs and labels even the word "atheist" will NOT make one better than the other. It only means we hold different positions. The only good argument that can be had is who can prove the data universally.
You are NOT going to play the "I DONT FIT IN" or "I am an oddball" card with me. I lived like that, I made myself miserable and made myself a doormat.
Just because I do not like your religious claims, DOES NOT mean we cant find common empathy, YOU ALREADY did that with Losty.
I may rake your claims over the coals, but we don't hate you. If this website did, you would have been kicked the first day. Treat everyone here as individuals.
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I think I have an obsession with God and religion to the extent he doesn't even approve of it, to be honest.
BINGO, yes.......
YES YES YES, just like far too many have an obsession with Yahweh or Jesus or gambling or heroine.
The problem is you don't want to consider that you don't need Allah's approval to think for yourself anymore than Hindus need Vishnu to think for themselves.
"Belonging" isn't about conforming or following. It is about SELF ACCEPTANCE. Not what others tell you t think, If you are going to tell Losty to be herself, then DO THAT YOURSELF.
THEN and only then, will you value yourself, regardless if you keep or leave a position.
I still to this day will tell Catholic Lady the same thing I tell you, THERE IS NO GOD. But when she responds, she doesn't flip out like I want her dead, nor does she argue like she is a victim if I challenge her.YOU are not a victim, nor are you in enemy territory. You are simply in a moment in time where you are confused as to which way to go.
THAT IS NORMAL when you look in the mirror at your own logic and realize it wasn't what you expected.