Arguments for God in Quran.

[The Grand Nudger]

....there's more than just one book in the world, lol.....but, the fun thing about moral facts is that they don't need to be written anywhere.  Being written isn't how something is made a fact.  


Same way I perceive anything, same way you perceive anything.

Both these answers are very wrong. I will let you assess why.

For number 2, it's really not the same as any perception. For example, it's not the same as how you see the color brown. And it's not the same how you read a sentence and derive it's meaning.

As for 1, it's written somewhere, so again, is it by genetics in your brain or what?

Don't just answer playfully. Really think about it.

Your 2 contradicts your 1.

Because everything you perceive is somewhere, it exists somewhere, even what you imagine exists in your head.

But in 1, you are stating you perceive moral facts which exist no where.


It's no wonder you don't see the moral argument for what it is.   You have inconsistency, in your understanding of morality.

It exists no where yet you believed it absolutely. At the very least, you would state like Hammy that they exist in your brain and you are your brain, and hence you guide yourself, but we saw how that was a paradox by definition of guidance and morality. 

It becomes self-deciding as opposed to recognition.

It looks like it was the disagreement.....

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-but hey, the past is the past even if it was just a couple of posts ago.  Can we state, unequivocally..going forward..that you don;t have any objection to moral realism whatsoever?  That you also think there are moral facts, and that if we get those facts right, a moral statement would be true?