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Things that change us
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RE: Things that change us
(April 2, 2018 at 12:08 pm)Mr.Obvious Wrote:
(April 1, 2018 at 3:23 am)Godscreated Wrote:  No I don't think we're off thread on the contrary I see us on topic. Tell me this, why would an omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent God want to decide what we would want?
Where would that benefit Him? Where would love come from for Him? How could He nurture us and why would He have sent Christ to redeem us?
People would have interpreted God's words to suit them no matter what He said, why, because many are far to selfish to want anything other than what pleases them. Some would just do it to be in control but then that's just another part of being selfish isn't it. What we are suppose to do is ask God the Holy Spirit to guide us in the word so we can find God's truth and follow it in service to Christ. Most people today would rather glorify themselves than to glorify God who has given them everything. No God doesn't want to control us He wants to love us, which He does, and be loved by us. Sadly most people only want what they can get from Him and when they don't they abandon Him for themselves. We humans can be a sad lot and I do not know why because through God our savior we have everything to gain.

GC

'Want' would have nothing to do with it. It would be logically impossible for him not to.
And the idea of sending christ to redeem us, in itself a horrible concept imho, would become ridiculous.
I could go deeper, but this is about two different points of view. We can hash that out, if you like. But Deidre made this topic to share things that changed us.
Do you want me to explain myself? I'll make a seperate thread if you do.

Yes, do.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Messages In This Thread
Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 28, 2018 at 10:37 pm
RE: Things that change us - by ignoramus - March 28, 2018 at 10:53 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 28, 2018 at 10:57 pm
RE: Things that change us - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 11:10 pm
RE: Things that change us - by The Grand Nudger - March 28, 2018 at 11:18 pm
RE: Things that change us - by energizer bunny - March 29, 2018 at 2:04 am
RE: Things that change us - by stretch3172 - March 29, 2018 at 2:20 am
RE: Things that change us - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 29, 2018 at 3:26 am
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 29, 2018 at 7:37 am
RE: Things that change us - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 29, 2018 at 8:17 am
RE: Things that change us - by Angrboda - March 29, 2018 at 6:50 am
RE: Things that change us - by vorlon13 - March 29, 2018 at 7:00 am
RE: Things that change us - by Martian Mermaid - March 29, 2018 at 7:01 am
RE: Things that change us - by WinterHold - March 29, 2018 at 7:44 am
RE: Things that change us - by Little lunch - March 29, 2018 at 10:01 am
RE: Things that change us - by Raven Orlock - March 29, 2018 at 4:24 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 29, 2018 at 4:42 pm
RE: Things that change us - by c172 - March 29, 2018 at 4:42 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - March 30, 2018 at 2:30 am
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - March 30, 2018 at 6:43 am
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - March 30, 2018 at 11:31 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 30, 2018 at 11:37 pm
RE: Things that change us - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2018 at 11:41 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 30, 2018 at 11:43 pm
RE: Things that change us - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2018 at 11:44 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 30, 2018 at 11:46 pm
RE: Things that change us - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2018 at 11:48 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - March 31, 2018 at 1:10 am
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 31, 2018 at 5:39 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - March 31, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - April 1, 2018 at 12:38 am
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - April 1, 2018 at 2:28 am
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - April 1, 2018 at 3:23 am
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - April 2, 2018 at 12:08 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - April 3, 2018 at 9:22 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - April 4, 2018 at 7:03 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Astreja - March 30, 2018 at 3:20 am
RE: Things that change us - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 30, 2018 at 6:46 am
RE: Things that change us - by Whateverist - March 30, 2018 at 7:06 am
RE: Things that change us - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2018 at 2:01 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Antares - March 30, 2018 at 2:36 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 30, 2018 at 6:56 pm
RE: Things that change us - by The Valkyrie - March 30, 2018 at 7:04 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 30, 2018 at 7:05 pm
RE: Things that change us - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2018 at 8:04 pm
RE: Things that change us - by c172 - March 30, 2018 at 7:46 pm
RE: Things that change us - by J a c k - March 30, 2018 at 11:54 pm
RE: Things that change us - by WinterHold - March 31, 2018 at 12:13 am
RE: Things that change us - by J a c k - March 31, 2018 at 12:25 am
RE: Things that change us - by WinterHold - March 31, 2018 at 1:07 am
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 31, 2018 at 12:16 am
RE: Things that change us - by WinterHold - March 31, 2018 at 12:25 am
RE: Things that change us - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2018 at 12:22 am
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - March 31, 2018 at 12:28 am
RE: Things that change us - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2018 at 12:36 am
RE: Things that change us - by WinterHold - March 31, 2018 at 1:13 am
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - April 2, 2018 at 12:21 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - April 2, 2018 at 1:59 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - April 5, 2018 at 1:59 am
RE: Things that change us - by Mr.Obvious - April 11, 2018 at 5:35 pm
RE: Things that change us - by Godscreated - April 16, 2018 at 12:47 am
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - April 2, 2018 at 3:32 pm
RE: Things that change us - by *Deidre* - April 3, 2018 at 9:49 pm

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