(April 17, 2018 at 5:58 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(April 17, 2018 at 5:52 am)robvalue Wrote: Is Allah a sentient being, or just some mindless force? Is it choosing to torture when it doesn’t need to?
If it’s supposed to be a means to an end, can’t it achieve the same end another way? If not, where does this arbitrary restriction come from?
What can possibly be achieved by this torture?
From what I understood; he is more of a force. His description is described fully in this Sura:
Quote:Sura 112, The Quran:
( 1 ) Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One,
( 2 ) Allah, the Eternal Refuge/the hollow.
( 3 ) He neither begets nor is born,
( 4 ) Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
So he is a "Hollow" entity. That is more of a force. No wonder picturing him is impossible, as the Quran said:
Quote:Sura 6, The Quran:
( 103 ) Vision perceives Him not, but He perceives [all] vision; and He is the Subtle, the Acquainted.
That's my opinion goes to say that he is a fact of this universe, if you think about him as a hollow force that shaped everything including the word "create" itself; you will see the scale I mean. We did discover that there is a point in the void where everything began from; that's a scientific theory that is quite respected and even favored sometimes. God is the force that started everything from that void; he even started the void itself.
"He" is only a reference. God is not a male neither a female. He doesn't have gender.
I would have to disagree that the Quran makes Allah out to be a mindless force. Sure, you can try and squeeze it out of certain passages. But read as a whole, there's no way that's the intention, in my opinion.
A mindless force... that wants to be worshipped, and is obsessed with logic, so much so that it reanimates the consciousness of dead humans somehow, just so they can be tortured? Does any of that sound remotely logical in itself?
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