(April 18, 2018 at 9:01 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Some rhetoric bullocks some Theists use here really needs to stop.
Stop calling Evolution,Abiogenesis and the Big Bang random or an accident if your god is not involved.These are orderly processes are proposed as orderly processes. And the fact we could have had a different outcome means the process is not perfectly determinant not random.
Stop saying Atheist view humans as developed worms or star dust then trying to use that as means of closing down a discussion or as a dismissal tactic .The ontological origins of humanity does not take away from morality or the ability to reason unless you can make a damn good argument for it .
Does this mean that the Christians can make demands upon the arguments here, or is a double standard being enforced upon the Christians.
I've had many of the atheist here tell me that evolution is random acts of thoughtless actions, that is not an orderly process. so go after them first, the herd needs to stay on the same page, right. I've also seen many of the programs on the big bang and the scientist that are doing the programs call it random. again go after your own kind and get the herd together before laying down laws to the Christians who know that these supposed processes haven't a leg to stand on.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.