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Oh no not another free will thread.
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread.
(April 22, 2018 at 9:32 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(April 22, 2018 at 9:28 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: I simply don't see the connection with a being knowing something with there being no free will.  It doesn't compute for me.  The logic you're employing simply seems faulty.

Well, in what way?  Let's try to nail down why it seems faulty.  As I described above, there;s no requirement of an entity that actually does know the future, only that the future can be known.


You find yourself in a situation where you have to choose a shirt.  You have shirt A, you have shirt B.  You're going to choose shirt b, this is a knowable future state.  Can you choose shirt a?  No, you are going to choose shirt b.  I guess you made a choice, but what freedom did you exert in an event with a previously knowable outcome?

Why would the outcome be previously knowable?
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 8:56 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:02 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:05 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:12 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by SaStrike - April 22, 2018 at 9:35 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:44 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:49 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 10:02 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 10:10 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:17 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 10:22 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:25 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by brewer - April 23, 2018 at 6:22 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 10:32 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:36 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 10:57 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 10:58 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 11:18 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:10 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 10:54 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 11:14 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 11:57 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 22, 2018 at 9:07 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:15 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:13 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:13 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:14 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:17 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:20 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:32 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by LadyForCamus - April 23, 2018 at 9:03 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:20 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:34 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:24 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:30 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:37 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:28 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:36 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Minimalist - April 22, 2018 at 9:39 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by The Valkyrie - April 22, 2018 at 9:30 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Losty - April 22, 2018 at 9:33 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:33 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:39 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 23, 2018 at 11:08 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:42 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:44 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 9:18 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:40 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 22, 2018 at 9:44 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:51 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by SaStrike - April 22, 2018 at 10:04 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:57 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:59 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:58 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Catholic_Lady - April 22, 2018 at 10:02 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 10:06 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 23, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 1:57 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:07 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:46 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 11:10 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:21 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:27 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 10:23 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:31 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:42 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:46 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 11:09 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 11:11 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:46 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:54 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 22, 2018 at 10:54 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 11:07 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 23, 2018 at 12:32 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 23, 2018 at 1:41 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 23, 2018 at 2:30 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 23, 2018 at 9:07 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 9:12 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 23, 2018 at 9:33 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:59 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Catholic_Lady - April 22, 2018 at 11:40 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 11:05 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 11:36 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 11:45 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 11:51 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 23, 2018 at 12:01 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 11:53 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 23, 2018 at 12:10 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Catholic_Lady - April 23, 2018 at 12:20 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 23, 2018 at 12:24 am
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 8:59 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 11:22 am
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 2:05 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by LadyForCamus - April 23, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 9:29 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 24, 2018 at 4:22 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 24, 2018 at 5:01 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 24, 2018 at 8:27 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 24, 2018 at 8:34 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 24, 2018 at 9:09 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 25, 2018 at 8:55 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 4:22 am
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by LadyForCamus - April 26, 2018 at 10:23 pm
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 27, 2018 at 11:20 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Catholic_Lady - April 26, 2018 at 10:26 pm
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