porn and women

[Catholic_Lady]

The problem is that you're trying to equate my beliefs regarding demons to the belief that women are objects.

No, I think the problem is, that you consider your beliefs as beyond reproach and harmless. I'm trying to show you, that if you're worried that some sexual fantasies may cause harm to vulnerable people, you should also be worried about exposing vulnerable and unstable people to religious fantasies, presented as unquestionable facts.

I'd be curious to know which of my beliefs you consider harmful.  

As to the second sentence, I would agree that beliefs should be taught as exactly that - beliefs. There is no hard proof that God exists, that's why we call it faith.

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 Believing that demonic possessions are possible isn't an immoral position. Believing that women are objects, is. So it's not a fair or equal comparison.

Now - that really depends on the morality, doesn't it.

Fair enough, I'll go with my morality then, which I believe is the socially excepted morality in civilized society: Believing women are objects is wrong.

Women being treated as property was all fine and dandy until not that long ago - and still is in a lot of places. Your bible contains specific instructions on how to properly sell your daughters into slavery and how to murder sexually unfaithful women, including rape victims. If Bob believes, that women are chattel, what will it do to him, when he reads, that they were created as an afterthought, specifically for man's pleasure?

My bold. Sure.... until you get to the part where Jesus tells us to treat others the way we want to be treated, befriends a prostitute, rescues an adulteress from being stoned to death, and tells us not to look at women lustfully. I would think, if a random crazy person who knows nothing about Christianity stumbled upon the bible and read it as is, no context or perspective, he'd probably come away having some pretty conflicting views. I agree, the bible by itself is not enough because people will just interpret in differently, that's why we have churches, doctrines, etc. It's better to have more clear guidelines, but that's a conversation for a different thread.