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(April 30, 2018 at 4:26 pm)G Alan Wrote: All that to say this.  Kids who are brought up in the Christian church and home....when they attend college, 85% of them start to question or fall away or completely walk away from their "faith".  Reason... they do not know how to defend what they believe in.
You reckon that's why?  It's that they don't know how to defend some x?  I'd suspect that people leave their religions because they no longer believe in some x...even if they were aware of all the right verses to reference, personally.  Elephant in the room...though, are we sure that's when it starts?  

Consider this.  Do you believe what your parents believed?  All of it?  When did you stop believing in this or that piece?  

Quote:What is it that these kids and my kids are hearing that makes them turn away?
Magic books problems with higher education are legion.  It might be helpful to narrow your search.  What subjects do you think that inserting ones god beliefs ought to count as an adequate answer on a college level test?  We could start in those subjects.

In general, the issue (at least as I see it)..is that it wholly misrepresents our origins and subsequent history, that it proposes a repulsive ethical system, and that it's a representative of a larger set of problematic human superstitions.
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