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Evidence. Can't go there due to a prior committment
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RE: Evidence. Can't go there due to a prior committment
"We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism"

There's the quote that you are leveraging in an argument against materialism. Your alternative is quite obviously magical, you just don't like to see me use the word magic.

So, where is the patent absurdity? What does our aspiration exceeding our ability have to say about whether or not materialism is defensible position? Are we not enjoying the benefits of science in our health and lives? Show me a just-so story. I'm personally unfamiliar with Dawkins. I can't say that I have an opinion of him either way. I know he's big medicine in some circles, not mine.

Does materialism follow our observations? Yes it does. That is exactly what the material world is. The observable world. If the entirety of your point was in the final sentence you could have simply posted that. No, you posted what you did (in it's entirety) because you liked the way it sounded, you agreed with the statement. I feel that the statement is hyperbole. I'd love to see the text in full, if you'd link it. I didn't know that I needed to respond to the final sentence, since I don't have any prior commitments to anything. Provisional certainty is the name of the game. If you have evidence that exists beyond the material world then find some way to present it. If your positing that such things exist but are at a loss as to how to provide me with a reason to agree, then how did you come to this knowledge in the first place?

Summarize the points of the article for us. Things aren't "true until refuted"
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Evidence. Can't go there due to a prior committment - by Fred - September 4, 2011 at 11:49 am
RE: Evidence. Can't go there due to a prior committment - by The Grand Nudger - September 5, 2011 at 6:26 pm

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