RE: Just met a former Muslim on Facebook
May 3, 2018 at 4:45 am
(This post was last modified: May 3, 2018 at 4:57 am by WinterHold.)
(May 2, 2018 at 8:51 pm)Brian37 Wrote: This guy I met today is from Pakistan, and no, I don't know how you can fit a guy named Stan in your suitcase. Get it? "Pack A Stan"? HA, I made a funny.
Stan is not a Pakistani name as much as I know; it's an Urdu word for "place of"...notice "Pakistan";; PAKI then STAN
Afghani STAN...and so on.
The terrorists that Regan invited to the oval office back in the 80s are from Pakistan and Afghanistan; Brian.
The frontline soldiers against the USSR were Pakistani & Afghani natives who agreed to fight against the soviet invasion. The money+spiritual values were Saudi, The planning was American.
So that's my context. Nothing against other Muslims; nothing against your friend; but everything against the Islam of Saudi Arabia, that the white house boosted in the 80s and found a decent have in the ranks of the Afghani+Pakistani Mujahideen.
(May 2, 2018 at 9:02 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 2, 2018 at 8:27 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: So the Islam that suits them is a version based on books called "The Hadith books". In them, they find what legitimizes the bloodshed and the fist of steel they use to terrorize the native populations and take their lands. That is not Islam; the Quran that defines what Islam is, is something totally else.
Your views on what should or should not be the basis of Islam is no more privileged than theirs. But at least you engage in the same bigotry towards Muslims whose opinions differ from theirs, just like they do. You have that much in common.
No?
Sunni/Shiite Islam sees that Muslims should kill me. I don't want to kill them. Forgot this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam
Quote:Hadith
See also: Malik ibn Nuwayrah and Criticism of Hadith
In contrast to the Qur'an, hadith literature gives contradictory statements about punishments for apostasy.[22][44]
In Sahih al-Bukhari, the most important book in Sunni Islam after the Quran, and Sahih Muslim punishments for apostasy are described as follows:[45][46]
Quote:Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:83:17, see also Sahih Muslim, 16:4152, Sahih Muslim, 16:4154
If standing against the above is bigotry; then hello hello bigotry; I'm proud to be a bigot.
Sunni and Shiite Islam, through the Hadith, orders to KILL any opposing opinion.
I follow the Quran alone. There is no killing for an apostate in my religion. So how do I compare to it?
