RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 2:22 pm
(This post was last modified: May 4, 2018 at 2:38 pm by CDF47.)
(May 4, 2018 at 10:38 am)Joods Wrote:(May 4, 2018 at 10:23 am)CDF47 Wrote: In my religious belief, if you believe in the Son of God you will be saved and have everlasting life in paradise.
Out of all of the versions of "your religion", how do you know you picked the right one?
What evidence do you have to prove that your religion is right and all others are wrong?
It is based on the Holy Scriptures. I use the best discernment I can to determine the text but I realize I am a fallible human.
(May 4, 2018 at 10:40 am)Hammy Wrote:(May 4, 2018 at 10:37 am)Khemikal Wrote: Ultimately, and this is germane to our new friends post above..it doesn't matter whether or not "god" has a designer. If there is a god (and let;s just imagine he has no contingencies and he;s super duper powerful and interacts with our world)...that;s still not how we got here. If we live in a world in which the proposition "god exists" is true., that doesn't change the fact that we also live in a world where there are facts of biology.
Other believers can reconcile their god stories with the facts of biology, I rate it no higher than a personal tick of specific people when they fail to do so.
It doesn't matter if it doesn't matter. It's still not "God" if the designer evolved naturally or if the designer itself had a designer.
It's not about being pragmatic. It's about being accurate. For all intents and purposes it may as well be deemed "God" but that's not the same thing as it actually being God. A being outside the universe is not something that there can ever be any empirical evidence of.
Maybe or maybe not but the signatures of that being can be detected within the creation (i.e. highly sophisticated machines in the cell, advanced digital code in DNA, fine-tuned universe, 0 space at the Big Bang,.....).
(May 4, 2018 at 10:44 am)Tizheruk Wrote:Quote:Genetic information is a digital code.Nope
Yes, digital code is not always binary 0s and 1s. This is a 4-digit digital code.
(May 4, 2018 at 10:46 am)Joods Wrote:(May 4, 2018 at 10:25 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: 51% of scientist in the USA, the most religious developed country. And 51% believing in God or a higher power does not imply that 51% think the origin of DNA is intelligent design. And the opinion of scientists on the topic of the origin of DNA who aren't in a field of biology carries no weight, and is an appeal to inappropriate authority.
In the Academy of Science (the 'best scientists'), it's more like 10% who believe in God or a higher power, btw.
Either this guy is a sock, or he's just repeating what was already said in another thread about this.
Just pulled those figures from the web from a Pew study.
(May 4, 2018 at 10:50 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:CDF47 Wrote:Information always comes from a source (a mind or intelligence) that we know of.
Again, you're asserting what you ought to be supporting.
What you're basically saying is 'All the X we've seen up until now has been caused by W. Here is a new X that is not clearly caused by W. But we know X is caused by W, so this X must be caused by W as well.'
It's not a very good argument, and it doesn't help that in this case the X in question (DNA) is quite dissimilar in important ways from the previous X's it's being compared to (language, computer programs, human artifacts).
Yeah, this X in question is the most highly complex and specific in the known universe.
(May 4, 2018 at 10:53 am)mh.brewer Wrote:(May 4, 2018 at 10:03 am)CDF47 Wrote: Believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and be saved.
So.......... you really don't have answers for me, just believe. That's the best you can offer? You can't tell me which jesus is the right one?
This is what taught me that christianity was bullshit.
The Jesus of the Bible. I would recommend you follow the One you read about in the Scriptures and to make sure to read it yourself (all of it).
