CDF47 Wrote:Mister Agenda Wrote:Sigh. You're assuming creation (which is what you, presumably, want to prove). The apparent fine-tuning of the universe hasn't been established to be actual fine tuning, it presumes the cosmological constants could have varied in ways that we haven't established and that there is only one cosmos, which we also can't know at this time. The 'information' in DNA being the product of a mind is what you ought to be trying to establish, instead of just repeating it over and over as if you already have.
How did you establish that there ever was nothing?
Who are you to demand that I act as your research monkey?
Atheist claim there was nothing which created everything. It's all random or it's designed. Simple as that.
DNA contains 4 digit digital code. Digital code is not always binary 0s and 1s. I would post a link but I was told not to post too many links for first 30 days.
Le sigh. So much wrong.
The only 'atheist claim' all atheists can make is 'I don't believe any supernatural deities are actually real (or some paraphrasing thereof)', because that's all atheism is. Not only is 'everything came from nothing' not an atheist claim, the atheists here who have had anything to say about it have told you that's not what they think happened. For you to then go and assert that we claimed the opposite of what we actually said says a lot about you.
The four base chemicals of DNA (A, C, T, and G) are discrete and superficially seem to be digital. However, DNA has features that can modulate its expression. amplifying, minimizing, or silencing it. This allows for complex gradients of expression. One sequence can be affected by the proximity of a another, and how close they are is affected by how the DNA is folded. Considered as a code, it combines digital and analog features. Of course, it's not actually a code, referring to it as such is an analogy. An analogy is never exactly the thing it is analogized with. DNA is a complex long chain molecule that is a template that forms protein molecules. Codes are composed of symbols, and symbols gain their meaning from convention; you can change a symbol to mean something different, or substitute a different symbol to mean the same thing. DNA is made of chemicals, not symbols, and you can't change the 'meaning' of chemicals, only their context.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.