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If there was a 1st moment in time.
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RE: If there was a 1st moment in time.
It seems to me When people attempt to use throw about concepts such as nothing comes from nothing, or something comes from some thing, they are really attempting to assert that things not just can only, but also must always, assume guises we feel comfortable associating with existence.

Quantum mechanics say all what are colloquially called things are emergent properties of underlying quantum fields, even causation is but an emergent property of the behavior of the underlying quantum fields.   When Krause said universe from nothing, he didn’t mean quantum fields from nothing.  He meant emergent properties we associate with matter, energy, time and space need not have always been there even if the underlying quantum field, to the extent that the emergent concept of time allow us to visualize “always”, seem to fit out idea of always being there.

We seem to have a mantle Hang up over the idea that conventional concept of mass, energy, time and space are not fundamental.   We don’t reflexively regard a notional quantum field that has not yet perturb itself in a manner that causes mass, energy, time or space to emerge as already being something.   Hence intuitively we rebel against mass, energy, time and space not not having arisen from something more familiar.
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If there was a 1st moment in time. - by MysticKnight - May 2, 2018 at 6:50 pm
RE: If there was a 1st moment in time. - by vorlon13 - May 2, 2018 at 7:08 pm
RE: If there was a 1st moment in time. - by chimp3 - May 3, 2018 at 7:42 pm
RE: If there was a 1st moment in time. - by chimp3 - May 2, 2018 at 7:34 pm
RE: If there was a 1st moment in time. - by Angrboda - May 2, 2018 at 8:50 pm
RE: If there was a 1st moment in time. - by Angrboda - May 4, 2018 at 11:19 am
RE: If there was a 1st moment in time. - by Angrboda - May 5, 2018 at 11:30 am
RE: If there was a 1st moment in time. - by haig - May 5, 2018 at 1:42 am
RE: If there was a 1st moment in time. - by Anomalocaris - May 5, 2018 at 1:26 pm

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