RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 5, 2018 at 11:41 pm
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2018 at 11:49 pm by possibletarian.)
(May 5, 2018 at 11:22 pm)Quick Wrote:(May 5, 2018 at 11:06 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Like seeing Elvis, you mean?
ofc not. I mean things like how quantum mechanics work and the law of attraction and things of that nature.
(May 5, 2018 at 11:06 pm)Khemikal Wrote: If all you needed was an other thinking thing...well, you're surrounded by them. I;m not sure what gods have to do with that.
Right. And there is also a whole lot we don't know about consciousness either. I don't believe consciousness is deterministic anyways. One argument I have made about consciousness and whether we can know whether we are the only thing that exists in the past, is in our a priori knowledge that an other (could very well be a person and I don't think that changes the argument) exists in the first place. Why would this be a given in the first place? It shouldn't be, but it is. Our development of life in the first place is what I am talking about. I don't think you are making the argument that we are the "first" life form. If we are not, what is the big distinction between the universe itself being the first living thing and us?
(May 5, 2018 at 11:32 pm)Quick Wrote:(May 5, 2018 at 11:29 pm)possibletarian Wrote: Not sure if it's just me but I don't understand that. Could you try again ?
What do you need clarifying on?
Okay, let me try again....
Quote:And there is also a whole lot we don't know about consciousness either
Okay, but that means we do not know, and we can't just throw things in there without evidence.. right ?
Quote:. I don't believe consciousness is deterministic anyways.
Okay, an opinion.. got you so far.
Quote:One argument I have made about consciousness and whether we can know whether we are the only thing that exists in the past, is in our a priori knowledge that an other (could very well be a person and I don't think that changes the argument) exists in the first place.
Can you clarify what you mean here ?
Quote:Why would this be a given in the first place? It shouldn't be, but it is. Our development of life in the first place is what I am talking about. I don't think you are making the argument that we are the "first" life form. If we are not, what is the big distinction between the universe itself being the first living thing and us?
an you clarify this question ?
(May 5, 2018 at 11:05 pm)CDF47 Wrote:(May 5, 2018 at 11:02 pm)Quick Wrote: Black holes are complex... Are they also made explicitly by a creator?
Again, that's Shannon information. It is not specified and complex. However, based on the fine-tuning of the universe, I believe the entire universe is designed so the black hole is also designed, ultimately. DNA contains information/a code!
Debunking the "Fine Tuning" Argument for God (Sean Carroll)
https://youtu.be/tNp0wtMkE_Y
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