RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 5, 2018 at 11:50 pm
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2018 at 11:52 pm by Quick.)
(May 5, 2018 at 11:35 pm)possibletarian Wrote:(May 5, 2018 at 11:32 pm)Quick Wrote: What do you need clarifying on?
All of it would be nice, could you try rephrasing it perhaps ?
(May 5, 2018 at 11:35 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(May 5, 2018 at 11:22 pm)Quick Wrote: ofc not. I mean things like how quantum mechanics work and the law of attraction and things of that nature.Neither seems to have any obvious connection to divinity, maybe you could elaborate?
(I was kind of hoping you'd had a chat with the world spirit or something - I could see how that might fit the description you gave.)
Quote:Right. And there is also a whole lot we don't know about consciousness either. I don't believe consciousness is deterministic anyways. One argument I have made about consciousness and whether we can know whether we are the only thing that exists in the past, is in our a priori knowledge that an other (could very well be a person and I don't think that changes the argument) exists in the first place. Why would this be a given in the first place? It shouldn't be, but it is. Our development of life in the first place is what I am talking about. I don't think you are making the argument that we are the "first" life form. If we are not, what is the big distinction between the universe itself being the first living thing and us?There are things you don;t know about consciousness...and things you don;t believe about it. This situation is entirely familiar to me, but here again the connection to the divine isn;t obvious?
As to your question..in what way do you think "the universe" belongs in the set that contains a drog..for example...as opposed to the set that contains a rock, or piles and piles of rocks, even?
The divinity "felt" by one such as a human doesn't need to be supernatural..
When we are addressing the issue of how we "know" whether we are not the only "thing" all we need to do is consider the question of whether there even is another. The moment this question arises in our unconscious is the moment we make that a reality since IF we have the power to consider whether another exists, then IF we are the only thing that exists and we are operating in a vacuum, this would give US the power to create, even if it is just in our imagination. Since consciousness as well as the unconscious is subjective, we must rationally presume that we are not the only sentience that exists if even for our imagination of representation of such sentience. Since sentience is reliable according to us (this should be self evident), and since basically everything that is sentient follows a hierarchy, it should not be much of an assumption to think we are not the greatest common factor of sentience. As we follow a hierarchy within our own kin (and within our own minds i.e. consciousness and unconsciousness) it seems likely there is some other greater sentience that we are merely a part of.