(May 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm)Quick Wrote:(May 6, 2018 at 3:17 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: See, the problem with answering this questions, as many of us have, over and over, is that many theists simply disregard every reason/example we give of the incompetent designer as a result of "The Fall," completely exonerating (in their minds) all the piss poor design.
I am not a theist.
Um sorry, but while "atheist" refers to "off on "God/god/deity" claims, I make no distinction with labels like "pantheist".
Exactly what does "pantheist" mean? I've heard arguments from others over the years whom call themselves that that the universe itself is a living thing. Not buying that anymore than I would a popular god belief.
Old mythology or new age woo, it is all the same to me. Humans basically not seeing that we are not important to the cosmos or universe. Humans simply don't like the fact we are finite.
