RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 8, 2018 at 9:08 am
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2018 at 9:12 am by Mister Agenda.)
CDF47 Wrote:Mister Agenda Wrote:Le sigh. So much wrong.
The only 'atheist claim' all atheists can make is 'I don't believe any supernatural deities are actually real (or some paraphrasing thereof)', because that's all atheism is. Not only is 'everything came from nothing' not an atheist claim, the atheists here who have had anything to say about it have told you that's not what they think happened. For you to then go and assert that we claimed the opposite of what we actually said says a lot about you.
The four base chemicals of DNA (A, C, T, and G) are discrete and superficially seem to be digital. However, DNA has features that can modulate its expression. amplifying, minimizing, or silencing it. This allows for complex gradients of expression. One sequence can be affected by the proximity of a another, and how close they are is affected by how the DNA is folded. Considered as a code, it combines digital and analog features. Of course, it's not actually a code, referring to it as such is an analogy. An analogy is never exactly the thing it is analogized with. DNA is a complex long chain molecule that is a template that forms protein molecules. Codes are composed of symbols, and symbols gain their meaning from convention; you can change a symbol to mean something different, or substitute a different symbol to mean the same thing. DNA is made of chemicals, not symbols, and you can't change the 'meaning' of chemicals, only their context.
It is either random or designed is my point.
It is not their material makeup that establish how the chemicals function, it is their sequential ordering. It is information and information processing.
There's an element of randomness within strict boundaries, which natural selection acts upon in a nonrandom way.
It is exactly their chemical makeup that establishes how the chemicals functions. That's what chemistry is all about.
If the material makeup doesn't establish how the chemicals function, you would be able to substitute other chemicals, the way you can substitute other symbols in a code. The chemical functions of the components of DNA are so essential that it is absurd to claim otherwise. Sequentially ordering any other chemicals in the same way simply will not work. You can have different sequences and have a chance of getting something useful, but with different chemicals, it's not DNA anymore.
CDF47 Wrote:Joods Wrote:I don't need to read a book about fantasy. Faith is subjective. And again - show me concrete, verifiable proof that you picked the right God, out of the thousands that are already in existence.
List of deities
Many of the pagan religions are just known to be myth with the gods residing inside this universe (not creating it). As far as Islam, Allah in the Quran says he is the greatest deceiver. My Bible says the greatest deceiver is satan. Many of the pagan religions are the same with different names for different gods. That is just a brief reason.
I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil...Isaiah 45:7
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.