DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Mister Agenda]

You can't even figure out how you're abusing the term digital yet you want us to take everything you say at face value. Fuck that!

Are you ever going to actually reply to any of the posts I've made beyond your one lame answer?

I can't respond to all the posts here.  It is digital.  It is a 4 digit digital code (not binary 0s and 1s).  Digital does not always mean binary.  Research Google for this.

Speaking of intellectual dishonesty, I've already explained that DNA is both analog and digital, and you replied to me, so I know you've read it, yet here you are, repeating yourself like no one has refuted your point. I don't know why you have a problem with DNA also being analog, doesn't that make it even more miraculous in your theology?

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Have fun with this chew toy, guys. His willful ignorance and his refusal to actually engage with anyone is too much.

Willful ignorance is a Biblical verse.  Funny you use that one.

Which verse?

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I think you're just mouthing words you don't understand.  Where can I find a rigorous and valid definition for what it means for a complex thing like a human being to be specified, first, and second, show us that you can apply that definition to a human being.  Otherwise you're just mouthing meaningless gibberish.

An interesting thing about CSI is that there's no unit of measurement for it. So we can't say a grain of sand has 4 CSIs and a guppy has 123 CSIs, and anything over 62 CSIs is always designed. All it amounts to is another way of saying 'that looks too complex and designed to me for it not to be complex and designed'.

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I attended 5 years mechanical engineering school.  Got bachelor of science in ME and 15 years experience as mechanical engineer, design team leader, and systems engineer.  Plus, I study science on my free time since teen years.  It is a favorite topic of mine, in addition to other hobbies.

A high percentage of scientists who believe in intelligent design are engineers. Not only is it outside their field, if any scientist would have a bias to perceive design where it does not actually exist, it would be engineers, don't you think? It's not that you're not smart. It's not that you can't math. It's because you are primed by your religion and your training to find design. That's a little too much bias for you to be trusting your own judgment over that of the scientists working in the field you're commenting on.

And you seem to be getting a lot of the science you study in your free time from ID propaganda sites, rather than from sites closer to the source of the research.

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Yes, the Creator overcame death for His creation.

That's a story. Why should we believe it? Because we'll roast if we don't? Hate to tell you, but the Muslims stole that fallacious argument and now you have to share.

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1. Where do the information bearing properties of DNA come from?  
2. Please describe the origins of genetic information.  
3. DNA is located in a protein molecule. It takes DNA to build a protein. Which came first, the DNA or the protein?  
4. Please provide a step-by-step natural explanation of the process of how DNA is copied and transferred to an assembly line where amino acids are linked together precisely as instructed, then formed into a functional protein, then transported to an exact location in a protein machine prior to machine operation. Explain how all the transport systems work. Explain the sequences of operation, the communication protocol, the operations of the machines, the assembly instructions, energy harvesting,....  Please explain how this all happened naturally.

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The DNA that was formally referred to as "junk DNA" is no longer junk DNA.  It is non-coding DNA.  It acts like an operating system (over 85 percent of the DNA).  3 percent is used for coding.

1. Its chemical structure.
2. Unknown for sure because it was over 3 billion years ago, but RNA world and several other hypotheses are plausible.
3. RNA, most likely.
4. No, you unmitigated ass.

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Not lying about 3rd.  They believe in a higher power (believer I wrote) as contrasted with unbeliever.

But they don't believe in intelligent design, weasel, which is what they need to support if you bringing up this statistic is to have any relevant to the topic at hand whatsoever.

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Just posing four questions is all.

Also known as 'just JAQing off'. Look it up.

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There are over 30 constants of the universe which are fine-tuned, such that if these mathematical figures were off by the most smallest fraction of a percent, life as we know it would not exist. The most finely tuned figure is the cosmological constant (energy density of the vacuum of space) which is fine tuned to an order of magnitude of 1:10^120. If that figure was off by that small a value, there would be no life. To give you an idea of the size of that number, there are approximately 10^80 elementary particles in the known universe and there have been 10^16 seconds since the creation of the universe in the Big Bang approximately 13.8 billion years ago. By the way, back to DNA, the probability of building a short functional protein from amino acids is 1:10^164. Just amazing!

How do you know that the 30 constants can be other than what they are? How do you know that they're not related, such that if you change one, others must change in specific ways, limiting how different they can be than what they are? How do you know there is only one cosmos, rather than so many that at least one like ours is inevitable. It's a thought experiment based on a pile of 'ifs', not evidence.

RNA strands can form spontaneously in the right chemical environment, the environment that evidence indicates was common when the earliest life can be detected. Just amazing!

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Higher power =/= god.  Pantheists believe in a higher power without believing in a god.  So do a lot of buddhists and confuscians.

The universe is fine-tuned and had a beginning and space had infinite curvature according to Hawkings' calculations which means there was 0 space and 0 matter.  Out of nothing came everything.  The Creator transcends the universe.

Can you quote Hawking claiming there was zero matter/energy? Or is that your own interpretation. And again, despite what you may think, Hawking was not omniscient. He wasn't always right and he's not the pope of atheists.

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100 percent I believe in God.  There is highly sophisticated code in DNA.  The universe is fine-tuned.  It's His will what He chooses to do and not do.

That specificity is a quality unique to intelligent design is a claim, not a fact. And it's a claim easily disproven by watching evolution in action, where we can observe a species adapting in specified ways over generations via natural selection that conserves variations that contribute to the reproductive success of the species. Like the bacteria that mutated in such a way that it was able to digest nylon, or the wall lizard experiment.

In fact, a fine-tuned universe is the only kind where God isn't necessary to explain life. What need does an omnipotent being have for fine-tuning? If such at thing were real, it could have us live in any universe, and the proof of its existence would be that life should be impossible but exists anyway. It could have us live inside a supernova or on the outside of a black hole. Instead we find ourselves in the one kind of universe (presuming that a universe more hospitable to life than ours is impossible) where it's possible for us (rather than something much more alien under different constants) to arise through natural processes.