RE: Forbidden Acts Against Religion
September 6, 2011 at 10:14 pm
(This post was last modified: September 6, 2011 at 11:02 pm by Rokcet Scientist.)
(September 6, 2011 at 6:24 pm)aleialoura Wrote: http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/rel...9/06/26460
I would like to hear everyone weigh in on this, but especially theists.
According to the Qu'ran and the Bible (Leviticus 20:13), this sort of thing is fully justified in the eyes of God/Allah.
Science tells us that a person's sexual preference is largely due to a genetic predisposition. Since we know that, it pretty much means that God created homosexuals, so why does he hate them so much?
Because God is a swinging closet homosexual. He could have created a Mrs God, couldn't he? Or his own personal harem of blonde bimbos. But he didn't. And that says enough.
(As a side note: at least Allah has thousands of virgins to spare, doesn't he?)
Quote:It appears to me that Muslims are being better Muslims because they don't just carry their book around, taking only parts of it seriously. Muslims are doing what their book tells them to do. Most Christians, while they hate homosexuals, aren't trying to put them to death for having gay sex.
Neither are 'most' Muslims. 'Most' Muslims may not 'like' homosexuals, simply because the majority isn't homosexual themselves, but that is exactly the same how 'most' Xtians don't 'like' homosexuals. Because their majority isn't homosexual either.
IRL neither majority is inclined to string up homosexuals though, whatever their book says. It's the fundamentalists – on either side – who scream for lynching parties.
Quote:How can Christians stand behind the Bible, and yet not follow it's words?
They have developed a special mechanism that helps them deal with the incongruences. It's called hypocrisy.
No different for Muslims and the qur'an.
Quote:I am not at all saying that I want Christians to start putting homosexuals to death, but what I am saying is if you're not going to do it, take it out of the bible.
Go ahead, convene another episcopalian council, like Nicaea, to decide what does and does not belong in the bible, if it's important to you (in that case you're in the wrong place here). That's how they did it then (in 324 was it?). That's how it could be done today.
Quote:It would be a dangerous thing if someone young/impressionable, or perhaps mentally ill were to read this and take it seriously.
Not if someone old/dogmatic would?
Quote:If you're going to call it the word of God, and not do what the word of God says, then why cling to it? Why defend it?
Because it's a comfortable set of known rules and you can blame God for any unpleasant consequences of following them. The alternative is scary and confusing: they would have to think for themselves and blame themselves everytime the consequences aren't funny. With a bible or qur'an you can always point to someone else: the guy upstairs who did it. Believers are blame shifters. De facto irresponsible people, really.
(September 6, 2011 at 6:32 pm)Darwinian Wrote: I would say that it's because the Christians see the Bible as the inspired word of God rather than literal.
I guess you've never dealt with fundies.
Of either side.
They all claim their book should be taken literally. No difference.