RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 12, 2018 at 12:47 pm
(This post was last modified: May 12, 2018 at 12:51 pm by CDF47.)
(May 12, 2018 at 12:19 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(May 12, 2018 at 12:14 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I didn't say that. I said it has to refer to genus then probably. A higher level taxonomy than a species.
No, you didn’t say it.
But you need to say it to be right.
For you to be mostly right, that taxonomical classification has to be the very highest level possible - the domain of all life on earth.
Then it is still only just mostly right. It is not right at the origin of all life on earth. You would have been mostly right by happenstance, that evidence points to life on earth that descended to the present day all had one single common origin, that the lineal ancesters of all life trace back to a single type of organism and thus presumable even further back into single common point when ancesters of that organism arose from non-life.
It is not inconceivable that we may yet discover evidence that some parts of biosphere contain as yet undiscovered organisms that could not descent from a common biotic ancesters with the rest of the biosphere. If that is discovered, then adaptation and evolution would prove to transcend the boundary between non-biotic organic chemicals and biotic life not once, but potentially many times.
Yeah, right. There is no proof of that; organic life from non-organic, and you know it. There is no proof that there is a common ancestor to all life.
(May 12, 2018 at 12:27 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(May 12, 2018 at 11:45 am)pocaracas Wrote: But a different species of each.
Or are you going to tell me that there is only one species of bacteria on Earth, as well as only one species of Fruit Fly?
Don't change the meaning of words, now!
And there is the problem. CDF claims "micro" evolution exists as demonstrated over 60 or so years of scientifically observed "micro" evolution. How much could happen in 3 billion years? Add those 60 years together over 3 billion years and we get 3,000,000,000/60=50.000.000 changes over time. That's right 50 million changes will result in no change of any note. That is the claim. 50 million changes results in no change at all.
And that is to neglect the influence of natural selection. It is to ignore all of the evidence we actually have to hand of, for example, ring species, a topic CDF avoids like the plague because he realises it sinks his nonsense or simply does not understand it.
I cannot fathom how stupid CDF's claim is. It amounts to nothing more that "I can't work it out, therefore god-did-it" a typical god-of-the-gaps position.
Unfortunately for CDF, the gaps are ever smaller, so CDF must continuously change position to attempt to keep up.
I can give a trivial example. I spend more than a little time for my daily toil on credit cards and encryption of same for substantial institutions. ~Some years ago we had the spam <bank of choice>requires you to verify your details spammage. At first, I just wrote a hack script to submit nonsense to such hackers. But that evolved over time until the entire programming started doing it in their spare time. By the end, we had a bot that would submit entirely fictitious yet valid cards, cvv's, names, DOB's and so forth. We reached a point where the scammers could not tell without testing each one and we shut down quite a few scams. The point is that the software evolved. People just contributed in their spare time for the hell of it. I am constrained by NDA to not provide identifying detail for the bank in question, but Really Believe Such. And I would rather have a bar of chocolate than a bar of clay.
In any event, we undertook this gratis. It was not a contracted task, it was simply an emergent property. We all saw evolution happen before our eyes as diverse individuals contributed. It was fun at the time, but a long while ago.
The initial program required a programmer. All information and information processes come from a mind.