(May 13, 2018 at 1:21 pm)Hammy Wrote:(May 11, 2018 at 9:09 am)SteveII Wrote: Nope. We condemn ourselves by our actions (free will and all). Apparently it is a greater good to have everyone live, enjoy each other, experiences and God's creation and ultimately some choose well and some choose poorly than no one exists at all.
Giving people the 'free will' to rape, torture and murder was a mistake.
Then you are actually saying giving people free will was a mistake. The fact that you add negative actions we can choose is unnecessary. For example, your statement is logically equivalent to "Giving people 'free will' to love, appreciate each other, and make self-sacrificing decisions for their family was a mistake."
Quote:And it's hardly free will when God knows what you're going to do... and my point was that God planned for Adam and Eve to eat from the tree. God planned the fall. God knows all, right?
'Knowing' and 'planning' are two very different things.