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New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
(May 14, 2018 at 10:24 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(May 14, 2018 at 7:04 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: The trolley problem is never easy.  However it does point out the distinction between not saving another human, and actively causing them violence resulting in death. I would say that your bodily autonomy ends with your body, and when you start talking about killing another.   This would be the difference between a lack of saving, vs killing.   For instance, if someone instead of not saving the dying man, shoots them, it is still murder.

So........... where do you stand on ETOH/drug abuse pregnant women that cause fetal mortality? P women who do not eat properly even though they have the means to. P women who neglect prenatal care?  P women who ignore pregnancy related disease states (HTN, diabetes, ..........)?

All of these behaviors can result in fetal/neonatal mortality. Would you hold the woman criminally responsible? Would you have correct behavior forced upon them?

That gets a lot more complicated, and I think that it would very much depend on the details. I could see drugs being considered neglect, the same as they would after the baby is born. Micro managing diet; probably less so. I think that rightfully so, we are intolerant towards those who are inconsiderate to the baby growing within them. How about you... do you think that a mom doing crack should be encouraged?
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant - by RoadRunner79 - May 14, 2018 at 10:32 pm

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