(May 15, 2018 at 12:59 am)Khemikal Wrote: The "bottom level" of functioning life is the moment that it becomes life. Whatever caused that reaction....that would approach the notion of irreducible complexity...however, it;s chemistry at that point...so all this machine nonsense would be inapplicable even if you managed to get it right. This is how we know that irreducible complexity ois a failed idea. It;s not that Behe et al picked the wrong examples or candidates...the notion itself is fundamentally bankrupt.
You could ask me "what;s under that...then?"s all night and nothing about that will change.
I disagree. The lowest level of the machine found would be irreducibly complex. We are close on the flagellum (it goes down 3 levels according to you). I am familiar with the pump but not the other two machines.