(May 14, 2018 at 6:56 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 14, 2018 at 4:07 pm)SteveII Wrote: In a nutshell, libertarian free will is choosing an action that is not causally determined by factors outside of ourselves.
Wrong. That's compatibilist free will. Libertarian free will is essentially uncaused choice, which is why it's incoherent.
Given that you've redefined libertarian free will as compatibilist free will, it makes it all the funnier when you later say:
Quote:Compatibilist (which you seem to be) redefine free will into a meaningless phrase.
Quote:Libertarianism is one of the main philosophical positions related to the problems of free will and determinism, which are part of the larger domain of metaphysics.[1] In particular, libertarianism, which is an incompatibilist position,[2][3] argues that free will is logically incompatible with a deterministic universe and that agents have free will, and that, therefore, determinism is false.....Free volition is regarded as a particular kind of complex, high-level process with an element of indeterminism.
Wikipedia || Libertarianism (metaphysics)
Fine, I will clarify. However, libertarian free will is not "essentially uncaused choice." It is that the cause is internal mental processes that are themselves not physically determined.
