RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 15, 2018 at 7:19 pm
(This post was last modified: May 15, 2018 at 7:22 pm by CDF47.)
(May 15, 2018 at 7:08 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(May 15, 2018 at 7:00 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Fair enough. You will never find a natural cause for the information in DNA, I predict. Information always comes from an intelligence.
You all just try to discredit the ID scientists, many of which are brighter than you. It's a debate trick. Dr. Meyer is a brilliant scientist.
Yes, they do.
No, it's not.
See my top response above.
No, you are.
Any source which posts ID will just be called an illegitimate source by you guys so it's pointless debate. It's just a debate trick is all, even when numerous reputable sources are provided.
Feelings are mutual.
God is the primordial One. He is eternal.
So too all the information in DNA is eternal.
Modern physics specifies information can never be created or destroyed. Ever. Information that is the universe is eternal. No intelligence is needed for it to have “come from”. No assumption is needed about it needing to create its own mother, fuck its own mother to give himself birth in order to save you from something it fAcilitated for doing something it fAcilitated.
The universe had a beginning from nothing to the best of our knowledge. So no information. The universe will also suffer a death. The information is then finite.
(May 15, 2018 at 7:13 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(May 15, 2018 at 7:09 pm)CDF47 Wrote: He knows a code always comes from a programmer. It's that simple. This code just happens to be the most sophisticated in the universe. It is clearly designed.
No, he does not know. He assumes his limited experience is generally applicable to fields far outside his experience and education and conflates assumptions with knowledge.
Not a smart one.
(May 15, 2018 at 7:15 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote: I believe in the fall of man
Ah, see, here you actually produce evidence that you are a fucking moron. Keep going along that track. Maybe you'll get somewhere. Or maybe you'll get hit by a train.
OK. Your point?
(May 15, 2018 at 7:17 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 15, 2018 at 6:28 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The article below provides better information on irreducible complexity:
http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/sho...php/id/840
As I pointed out to you earlier, arguments such as the one in this article are arguments from ignorance which are invalid by definition.
Behe's claim that these structures are irreducibly complex rests on the idea that precursor systems have not been found (even though they have), when he needs to show that precursor systems are not possible, which he has not done.
That's a classic argument from ignorance.
Precursors have not been found. The pump is a different 10 part system than the 40 part motor. They just share similar parts and are configured a like.