(May 16, 2018 at 9:13 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(May 16, 2018 at 8:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: There is a lot of misinformation here and verses taken out of context.It isn't misinformation, it is what your mad book states.
It isn't out of context, it is slap bang in the context of Genesis.
"out-of-context" is always the excuse used when a god-botherer is confronted with what the bible actually states.
(May 16, 2018 at 8:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: God always knows where Adam is. He is talking to Adam in the next verse. Adam tried to hide from God.No, Gen 3:9 god explicitly states he couldn't find adam.
(May 16, 2018 at 8:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: God knows all these things but lets Adam explain them. This is similar to what an angry parent might do to their child. They know their child misbehaved but they let them explain.Post hoc rationalisation.
You are now stating that while you admit what it says, you know what it really meant. That's dumb.
(May 16, 2018 at 8:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: God is capable of all those things but chose to give Adam and Eve free will to choose to love and obey him.That is not free will and they did not have it until AFTER the ate the fruit.
(May 16, 2018 at 8:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: They chose to disobey.No, the serpent told them too and at that point they didn't know anything was wrong with that.
(May 16, 2018 at 8:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: He allowed the serpent to tempt them.What a prick. And didn't he already know how it would turn out?
(May 16, 2018 at 8:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: He could have kept the serpent out of the garden if He chose.What a prick. So you now claim that your god maliciously framed Adam and Eve.
(May 16, 2018 at 8:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: There is only one tree.That is an outright lie. Both are named in Gen 3
Tree of knowledge in Gen 2:17, that was the one they ate from.
Tree of Life in Gen 3:22. The one they had not eaten from and god shit himself
(May 16, 2018 at 8:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: This verse is just stating the tree of life is now shut to man. Man now has the knowledge of good and evil and he is banished from the garden.Now there is a second tree? Make up your mind.
(May 16, 2018 at 8:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: God told them they would surely die. They probably knew what death looked like by witnessing animal death.There was no animal death up to then. The first happened in Gen 3:21. Up to that Adam and Eve were vegetarians. Explicitly stated in Gen 2:16. And before you claim that Adam could have been eating animals as well, god had not yet created them at that point.
(May 16, 2018 at 8:37 am)CDF47 Wrote:The scriptures say slavery, genocide, incest and human sacrifice is OK. Do you accept those?
Because the Scriptures say so.
You took it out of context.
He always knows where Adam is but wanted Adam to come out from hiding himself.
No, what I said stands.
It was a free will choice to eat the apple.
No, the serpent told Eve to and she knew because they were told not to eat of that tree.
Yes, He knew how it would turn out but He had a plan of redemption in place.
No, I am saying He allowed the serpent to tempt them.
Oh yes, two trees. God did not want them to eat of the tree of life so He had it guarded.
Yes, two trees.
I believe there were carnivorous animals at the time. I believe there was animal death. I believe in Old Earth Creationism.
No, you just hate God and do what you can to make Him sound horrible when He is not. He is just, loving, merciful, and trustworthy. He also has anger and wrath though and punishes sin.
Try new verses so we don't go round in circles on these because that is what will happen.