(May 16, 2018 at 3:00 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 16, 2018 at 8:50 am)SteveII Wrote: Zero. Eventually, given enough time any set of people with free will would.
So by the standard definition of free will, that it is the ability to do otherwise, they did not possess free will in that instance, as they had no chance of doing otherwise.
Apparently features of free will include the desire to test your bounds. Wonder 'why'. Desire things 'just because'. Think you know best or reason your way into anything you desire. IMO, you can't separate these things from free will, so they are a feature of free will. I would say that only omniscience stops all that.