New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant

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When you have to mid-represent the other side with such a bad false dichotomy, I think that is a major indication about your position.

Like you don't misrepresent the opposing position.

Look, RR. I don't think anyone here is trying to make abortion out in any way a good thing. I, personally, am appalled at the number of abortions occur in this country. We are, if not the highest, then among the highest in abortions per capita in the developed world. But, I also believe in the inviolable right to bodily autonomy. That right trumps your desire to enforce your brand of morality on others. Abortion is a tragedy, but it's her fucking body and her fucking choice. Judging by some of your comments in this thread, you're among those that believe there is no reason beyond threat of life to the mother to sanction abortion. Are you going to be the one to tell the 13-year old girl that she has to carry her rapists, or her father's or brother's, baby because her "emotional distress" isn't important enough?

As well it would be stipulated that emotional distress, does not constitute an immediate medical danger, which constitutes fetal homicide.

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If you're truly as cold hearted as this stance make you appear, I hope to never meet you in real life and I hope you never find yourself in a position where you can enact laws.

Yes, abortion is a tragedy. But not as great a tragedy as the suffering that would come from the draconian laws you seem to support. I'll say it again. Her body, her choice, and her choice is none of your fucking business. Neither are her reasons. Whether it's not being financially secure enough for a kid, not being emotionally ready, health concerns, rape, incest or just plain birth control failure, they're her reasons and are none of your fucking business. She's making what may be the toughest, most gut wrenching decision she'll likely ever make in her life and you want to legislate it.

You want to stop abortions? Maybe you should write your congressman and state representative and tell them to make certain that every school in the country be required to teach comprehensive sexual education, to include the on demand distribution of non-prescription prophylactics. Perhaps you could volunteer to help teach that. Maybe donate to researchers who are looking for better birth control, for men and women, because as long as people can have sex without a 100% method of preventing pregnancies, there are going to continue to be unwanted pregnancies.

I abhor abortion. But, I also recognize it's necessity in reducing the overall harm in our society and illegalizing it would increase, not decrease, that level of harm.

You can go back to slinging emotionally charged bullshit like "baby murder" now, but I hope I've at least given you food for thought