Soul - your views on it?

[fr0d0]

When?

Ignored

He made us his equals? But we're subject to time and space, bound to the laws of physics

Yeah - do you no get that concept??

you assert god is inside and outside space-time do you not? We're not gods correct? God can destroy us if he wanted yes?

Different person. Yeah.

You know frodo, there was a time when I used to believe just that and couldn't figure out for the life of me why I was failing time and time again to do the *simplest* of tasks. I've the hindsight to know now why faith, unlike knowledge, fails utterly is because, its believing in whatever you want to without a good reason to.

Youe faith was stupid then. Don't judge everyone by yourself k?

Sorry? So you're saying souls can die if given enough time?

Eh? Spirit's never die.

Okay why then is god exerting his authority over us if we're equals?

Are you retarded? I said different persons.

And why is my spirit only one (if not corrupted, tainted or damaged as some theists buy into) when god has three? ....lalalalala.

Yeah [insert another WC fanatasy here].

Moving on...

With the current demonstrable universe we've already got? @_@ Because there's no proof at all of the existence of souls, ghosts, demons or other supernatural entities whatsoever?

Being a twat is being a twat, it has to be said.

Well this is something beyond our expertise because its ultimately, or at least currently, unknowable.

Unknowable objectively einstien. Some people have, like, the ability to think.

What are the square-bounds of "natural" exactly? Until we know its limits, 'supernatural' is a meaningless term. Its like me saying: Supernatural doesn't rule out souls, because we're not talking "hypernatural" yet...

We define it as something we're sure doesn't fit the natural. We can know that for some things, if we allow ourselves to think. All those inbetween things are up for grabs. I'm not prepared to speculate about them. You apparently are.

Actually I was talking about god splitting himself up, as some theists believe this, since you acknowledged you do not, I see no reason to address this point any further.

Me neither. It was crazy enough the first time.

let's say your god is real for sake of argument. I died and put that statement to the test. So I finally met the big bad God (for the first time). What could I say? Let's see, for starters: I hate this place, this prison, this reality and I can't stand it any longer. I don't like your creation at all. I don't like the fact you're setting down on the table the choices I can and cannot make, thereby hindering, no suffocating my freewill. You've been manipulating my life from the day I was born; you dragged me into existence so I could experience this whole arbitrary good vs. evil nonsense; not to mention predestining the choices I made and didn't make throughout my entire life which has lead me up to this conversation we're having now.

So you're still in denial of the inevitable. k.

I want out. Yep. I wish no ill will on you, or your idiot followers. I'm leaving your "Seahaven". There's probably nothing out there for me, just an infinite abyss. Its absolute zero out there, so I'll probably cease to exist, maybe pass into oblivion, but it sure beats staying in the slum area of "Seahaven" aka Hell for eternity; and for the first time ever - I've actually made my own choice.

Correction... you're always making your own choices.... you can carry on being a jerk as long as you like. God has infinity for utter stupidity to work out the plan. So it's all good

But of course not! Your god concept doesn't want my liberation or anyone else's, Hell no!

Erm... r-iiii-ght.

Does he want to send me and other people who reject him to hell instead? Hell yes!

No dildo it's you who would choose pain instead of pleasure... but it's your choice, and God respects that.

My response above says no. I don't worship anyone, especially not the Biblical god. I'd rather die than be forced under his subjugation. I am a
man, not a sheep. I belong to no one.

Nose to spite the face kinda think. It's ok... I get it!