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Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
(September 8, 2011 at 4:50 pm)I_Blaspheme Wrote: You originally claimed this -

Quote:I demonstrated that not only can Christianity account for the preconditions of intelligibility, but it is the only proposed worldview that can do this.

Now you're claiming that "scripture can justify the principle of induction". Not the same thing.

Actually it is the same thing. Scripture is part of my worldview, and the uniformity in nature is one of the preconditions of intelligibility. So my statement was accurate.

Quote: I have been following that thread. I remain as unconvinced as Rhythm. As far as I can tell, you've demonstrated nothing outside of your own mind - certainly not to me. Any logical argument that considers scriptural accuracy as axiomatic isn't going to carry any weight with me. Sorry.

You being unconvinced by my argument is irrelevant. Using your own axiomatic ultimate authority (something you have yet to identify but I am sure you possess) to argue against my axiomatic ultimate authority is futile. The only problem is that you have to borrow from my ultimate standard to argue against it.

Quote: You also make the mistake of thinking that Rhythm (or anyone else) needs to provide a model of their own to debunk yours. They don't.

You are right, they do not have to; if they want to behave irrationally they are entitled to do so. However, if they want to behave rationally they must adhere to the principle of sufficient reason and give account for having the assumptions they have. This is something neither he nor you have done to date, so you are behaving irrationally by failing to do so.

Quote: Lest you think otherwise, I'm not interested in continuing this discussion. I only wanted to know what your "demonstration" consisted of. Now that you've confirmed it, I can see that continuing this discussion would be an enormous waste of my time.

Running from presuppositional apologetics is an irrational but unfortunately all too common defense taken by atheists. I’ll be here if you wish to come back though because I enjoy listening to other’s beliefs.
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Statler Waldorf - September 8, 2011 at 6:00 pm
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 10, 2011 at 7:47 pm
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 16, 2011 at 12:42 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 18, 2011 at 12:19 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 27, 2011 at 9:57 am

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