(September 8, 2011 at 3:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: IgnoredWhat do you mean ignored? It was a legitimate question. At what point is a soul created from nothing? =/
Quote:Yeah - do you no get that concept??Right, we're back to square one: What is the distinction between god's spirit/soul and a human's spirit/soul, and we're not talking about the entities themselves. I'm asking for ontology for the incorporeal/immaterial essence of a person and for a god. If you think a soul is synonymous for a person's spirituality/self/ego please say.
Quote:Different person. Yeah.Yes but that's my point. We're not equals. Why did god deliberately make us (soul/spirit/self) so uselessly weak? And it's not because of a lack of faith. ^^ I believed in myself and everything started to fall apart around me. Faith isn't what drives your god/creator forward to create universes and cosmoses from nothing. According to your theology he doesn't believe in any higher beings than himself that could conceivably exist, he opens declares there are no other gods, obviously.
Quote:Youe faith was stupid then. Don't judge everyone by yourself k?I learned those the hard way, but what pray tell do those non sequitur statements have anything to do with my response?
Quote:Eh? Spirit's never die.You answered "yeah" a moment ago to my earlier question that if God wanted to destroy us, he could. Clearly the soul is not immortal then. It has a long life expectancy, but even that can't last *forever* if this creator wills it dead or tires of sustaining it.
Quote:Are you retarded? I said different persons.Another person =/= Higher being. You needed to be more specific.
Quote:Correction... you're always making your own choices.... you can carry on being a jerk as long as you like. God has infinity for utter stupidity to work out the plan. So it's all goodThen I get to make my second choice all on my own, without the interference or approval of a divine prankster - Never to return.![]()
Quote:No dildo it's you who would choose pain instead of pleasure... but it's your choice, and God respects that.Frodo, if God's followers and their behaviour, are anything to go by with regards to obtaining a reflection of his mind, integrity and thoughts, I really don't want to exist with him, nor anyone else who thinks I'm a "retarded twat". I'd rather be happy being alone as I pass into the void of non-existence.
Quote:Nose to spite the face kinda think. It's ok... I get it!I'll always be indifferent at the very least to this creator-thing, there is no chemistry, devotion or affection. Fuck it, look frodo, if he's real, there's not even a relationship here. If I meet ANY deity after I die I knew it never cared about me enough to let me know it existed when I was alive, going through all the dark times in fear and in doubt.
I'm an agnostic atheist with respects to knowing whether or not there's really a creator force/deity out there outside of the scope of practical knowledge. But right now, I do know for a fact no such sentient all-powerful entity gives a shit about me, my family, or any of our lives.