RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
September 8, 2011 at 6:27 pm
(This post was last modified: September 8, 2011 at 6:29 pm by Statler Waldorf.)
(September 8, 2011 at 6:04 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Christians can't help but tell others what they must or must not do. Can they. Have you ever considered that you may have imagined an omnipotent god (who agrees with your every whim) to deal with your powerlessness in the face of others, and their unwillingness to bend to your desires and persuasions?
Are you telling others that they should not tell others what they should not do? Self refutation is a beautiful thing.
I didn’t write the Bible, so I assure you I didn’t “make it up” to be a self serving tool.
Quote: Your concept of god seems to be one that you have assumed to feed your own ego.
Nope, believing in a God who graciously redeemed me despite who I was before and what I justly deserved is in no way egotistical. Believing that no God owns you and you can do whatever you feel like doing in order to gain the most pleasure possible is egotistical however. So maybe you have constructed your atheistic worldview solely in order to stroke your own ego.
Quote: A god that makes your discredited "scientific theories" correctDiscredited by whom? I tried to get you to back up your scientific assertions up and you simply just said, “Because Wikipedia tells me so!!! So meh!” (Paraphrasing of course)
Quote: a god that makes your views of morality "true"
You mean the views of morality that logically have to be true if morality exists at all?
Quote: a god that places you in a different position than that of the wretched unwashed which you despise so much (but nonetheless belong to).
Yes I am placed in an undeserved category because of God’s grace. However, I do not belong to the wretched unwashed, but rather the wretched but now washed. I also hate nobody, I pray for your eventual redemption.
Quote: A god that makes you smart
God did graciously grant me with a decent level of cognitive ability, for which I am eternally grateful.
Quote: a god that will punish those who disagree with you.
Gross oversimplification, it depends on what the disagreement is and they are not being punished for disagreeing with me, they are being punished for being sinful and rebellious creatures.
Quote: To me, your god seems as small as you.
Ad Hominem puts me to sleep….Zzzzzzz
(September 8, 2011 at 6:05 pm)I_Blaspheme Wrote:
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
