Soul - your views on it?

[fr0d0]

What do you mean ignored? It was a legitimate question. At what point is a soul created from nothing? =/

I have no idea what you're asking, sorry. Do you mean when we're born? Our inherrant nature/ God created? What?

Yeah - do you no get that concept??

Right, we're back to square one: What is the distinction between god's spirit/soul and a human's spirit/soul, and we're not talking about the entities themselves. I'm asking for ontology for the incorporeal/immaterial essence of a person and for a god. If you think a soul is synonymous for a person's spirituality/self/ego please say.

You seem to want to make this 'god substance' impersonal - which takes it out of the subject area and into speculative philosophy.
Like I tried to say: we are humans made up of cells that are classifiably human. Within that classification we are also separate persons.
Gods spirit is a person, and we have the potential to enable that spirit within ourselves. Our soul, to restrict the meaning, is our mortally bound self.
Hope that helps.

Different person. Yeah.

Yes but that's my point. We're not equals. Why did god deliberately make us (soul/spirit/self) so uselessly weak? And it's not because of a lack of faith.

He didn't make us weak in that sense. We are as strong as our faith.

^^ I believed in myself and everything started to fall apart around me. Faith isn't what drives your god/creator forward to create universes and cosmoses from nothing. According to your theology he doesn't believe in any higher beings than himself that could conceivably exist, he opens declares there are no other gods, obviously.

1. Your faith weakened
2. Correct: God came first - not faith in him.
3. He is prior to everything. He doesn't have to believe that, he just is.
4. He openly declares that there ARE other gods and that you should worship none but him.

Your faith was stupid then. Don't judge everyone by yourself k?

I learned those the hard way, but what pray tell do those non sequitur statements have anything to do with my response?

You totally misunderstood what faith is. Your faith was baseless: given the statement you provided.

Eh? Spirit's never die.

You answered "yeah" a moment ago to my earlier question that if God wanted to destroy us, he could. Clearly the soul is not immortal then.

You thought by 'us' I was referring to our immortal spirit? Then you thought wrong.

Are you retarded? I said different persons.

Another person =/= Higher being. You needed to be more specific.

You are a person. The queen is a person. Both don't possess the same authority unfortunately. Such things are possible with personhood.

Correction... you're always making your own choices.... you can carry on being a jerk as long as you like. God has infinity for utter stupidity to work out the plan. So it's all good

Then I get to make my second choice all on my own, without the interference or approval of a divine prankster - Never to return.

All things shall come to him. Perfection attracts. You don't get to be an idiot forever.

No dildo it's you who would choose pain instead of pleasure... but it's your choice, and God respects that.

Frodo, if God's followers and their behaviour, are anything to go by with regards to obtaining a reflection of his mind, integrity and thoughts, I really don't want to exist with him, nor anyone else who thinks I'm a "retarded twat". I'd rather be happy being alone as I pass into the void of non-existence.

You're letting your reasoning be coloured by something other than the subject in hand. I can think you're being a jerk. In truth you could be being a jerk. That doesn't get you out of the consequences of being a jerk.

Nose to spite the face kinda thing. It's ok... I get it!

I'll always be indifferent at the very least to this creator-thing, there is no chemistry, devotion or affection. Fuck it, look frodo, if he's real, there's not even a relationship here. If I meet ANY deity after I die I knew it never cared about me enough to let me know it existed when I was alive, going through all the dark times in fear and in doubt.

He's doing his bit. You, on the other hand, are wallowing in the mud.

right now, I do know for a fact no such sentient all-powerful entity gives a shit about me, my family, or any of our lives.

How is that? How can you say you know? Is it because your life is not how it would be if he existed? Please explain.