(May 26, 2018 at 2:29 pm)Edwardo Piet Wrote: I'm sure a similiar argument against God has been done in the past... but here is my formulation of an argument I call The Argument Against God's Existence From God's Imperfect Choice.
The idea being, that if a perfect God always makes perfect choices then if he makes an imperfect choice then not all his choices are perfect so such a perfect God does not exist. Here's the argument:
Premise 1: God always chooses the best logically possible option.
Premise 2. There is a better logically possible option than the one in which God has chosen which he hasn't chosen.
Conclusion: Therefore such a God does not exist.
My guess is that premise 2 is the only premise in dispute by most theists (most theists accept that God cannot do the logically impossible).
An example of premise 2 being true is a world that was otherwise exactly the same as the one we live in but just one less child died of cancer. That's a logically possible world that is an improvement on this one. And yet God hasn't chosen it, which means God's choice is imperfect, so if all God's choices are perfect then this means that such a God does not exist.
Discuss.
1 from who's perspective?
If God always chooses what is logical can then He not have the ability to make a choice out of compassion? or make one for the greater good logical or not?
1) the statement God always chooses the best logically possible option is false. Because that statement presupposes that best and logical are to be determined by m.n per your example below. In truth God as a plan for man and even individuals. The bible shows that God always make decisions based on the fulfillment of his plans and or any prophesies tied to His final outcome.
So Yes God always chooses the best outcome, but what is accordance to His will and not our own. does that mean kids will die, yes does that mean good people will loose everything sure will/lord willing. Why?
Because to God it is far more important that your eternal home/future is secure than anyone person place or thing.. That while pushing for the events in the book of revelation.
Quote:Premise 2. There is a better logically possible option than the one in which God has chosen which he hasn't chosen.If your primary premise is wrong then it is no wonder your follow up and conclusion also fails.
Again your idea of 'logic' does not play into a decision God wold make. God ultimately makes choices from an omni present state knowing the consequence of every action every life and every death. Sometimes death if far more merciful than a full long life. Sometimes the death of a person if far better than the death of several different people or a whole people. but all you see is a kid with cancer and the immediate effect.
how narrow minded one must be to not be able to look past a single story of a child with cancer and see anything but the immediate circumstance.
So not you logic/reasoning argument where God is paradoxically fixed into making your decisions fails a horrible death and you should be ashamed embarrassed for think that if God does not think as you do there can be no God..
