RE: The Argument Against God's Existence From God's Imperfect Choice
June 4, 2018 at 2:14 am
(This post was last modified: June 4, 2018 at 2:14 am by Godscreated.)
(June 2, 2018 at 9:02 am)Edwardo Piet Wrote:(June 2, 2018 at 12:40 am)Godscreated Wrote: What makes you think there's another possible world (time line), there is no proof of such a thing thus your argument is a mute point, bye, bye.
I didn't say there was such a possible world at all. I'm talking about logical possibility not metaphysical possibility.
Do you mean "moot point"?
It's not a moot point because I didn't say there was such a possible world at all. I'm talking about logical possibility not metaphysical possibility.
Quote:Other atheist will have to argue against you because they do not believe in free choice, period and to have another world ie. time line there would have to be free choice, it is inescapable.
No one has to argue with me on this matter. But I'm making an argument against God's existence so it's the theists who have to address it. Omnipotence as the ability to do anything logical possible is an ability prescribed to God by Christians.
Yes moot, sorry. A different time line is not possible logically nor metaphysically, we have and live a life with the choices we make and no other possibility has ever been shown. You haven't made an argument against God's existence, at best you have made an argument God could have done better if and only if there was a different time line. However there can't be another time line because God is perfect in all ways. Christians do not ascribe anything to God, we receive our information through God's word which was established in eternity past. Past for us that is. It is the atheist who wants to place limits upon God until it suits their argument to assume God can do everything, good or bad. Sorry but god doesn't work in that way, you might try reading and understanding the basics of scriptures about God before arguing against Him.
GC
(June 2, 2018 at 9:02 am)Edwardo Piet Wrote:(June 2, 2018 at 12:40 am)Godscreated Wrote: What makes you think there's another possible world (time line), there is no proof of such a thing thus your argument is a mute point, bye, bye.
I didn't say there was such a possible world at all. I'm talking about logical possibility not metaphysical possibility.
Do you mean "moot point"?
It's not a moot point because I didn't say there was such a possible world at all. I'm talking about logical possibility not metaphysical possibility.
Quote:Other atheist will have to argue against you because they do not believe in free choice, period and to have another world ie. time line there would have to be free choice, it is inescapable.
No one has to argue with me on this matter. But I'm making an argument against God's existence so it's the theists who have to address it. Omnipotence as the ability to do anything logical possible is an ability prescribed to God by Christians.
Yes moot, sorry. A different time line is not possible logically nor metaphysically, we have and live a life with the choices we make and no other possibility has ever been shown. You haven't made an argument against God's existence, at best you have made an argument God could have done better if and only if there was a different time line. However there can't be another time line because God is perfect in all ways. Christians do not ascribe anything to God, we receive our information through God's word which was established in eternity past. Past for us that is. It is the atheist who wants to place limits upon God until it suits their argument to assume God can do everything, good or bad. Sorry but god doesn't work in that way, you might try reading and understanding the basics of scriptures about God before arguing against Him.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.