Soul - your views on it?

[fr0d0]

At what point was "my soul" created from nothing?

You were born with it. Where, in my belief system, do you get that it was created from nothing?

He didn't make us weak in that sense. We are as strong as our faith.

I don't have faith in anything, so by your reckoning, I'm not just merely impotent, but I have absolutely no power, influence or effect over anything.

We aren't talking about anything. Just faith in God.
But to answer your secular questions...
Do people with more faith in themselves have and measure of success greater than those who have no faith in their abilities?
Are people who have faith in others misguided always?

If the body needs the soul then it stands to reason I shouldn't be alive right now, let alone able to type up this response to you.

You have a soul. it's part of you. You couldn't remove it. No one lacks it.

1. Your faith weakened

I abandoned the silly notion of it altogether Frodo.

After it weakened. Sure. I know.

4. He openly declares that there ARE other gods and that you should worship none but him.

So he's god of the gods?

Yep. King of kings and Lord of lords. The other gods are bad guys.

All things shall come to him.

Yeah, yeah. All knees shall bow and every arse shall fart.

Good one

Perfection attracts.

I find it alien and horrifying. Perfection repels. What on earth does a creator god want or need with trivial insignificant little me anyway? Nothing.

Again.. God doesn't need you, you need him. The toddler resents correction but it's for it's own good.

That doesn't get you out of the consequences of being a jerk.

What consequences will I face for not loving your god concept? Is it Hell-threat-time already frodo?

Live contrary to the laws of nature and you suffer the consequences immediately. Hell is just reward for what you do. Stop doing it to yourself and you get heaven.

How is that? How can you say you know? Is it because your life is not how it would be if he existed? Please explain.

Where the hell do I start?

Well, the only reason why I'm responding right this second now is because I'm on the sick, and I need the distraction. I'm awaiting an operation for my stupid useless body that could take weeks/months to recover from. My less than sympathetic employer is threatening to review my circumstance so see whether or not I've a future with them. This adds to the stress and heartache.

Capability. What evil that is. But then companies have to make profits. Too much profit in my opinion. If they had Christ led ideals they would value the person more than the cash: like what happenned with companies like Bourneville in the past.

A huge variety of ailments are part of this sometimes ugly reality. It's what we have and we live with it/ make the most of it.

Some of my family are dead. Cancer claimed most but a few died horribly from accidents. Ones closest to me are going through difficult times with no end in sight to their troubles (except for an unlikely lottery win, or a far more probable death), the strain threatens to push them into a nervous breakdown. My father has lost over a third of his heart from several heart attacks, he's slowly dying from a multitude of illnesses that claimed his father - he has another ten years if we're lucky, although he can't retire because we need the money to keep the roof over our heads.
There are times when my mother, a devout theist wishes she didn't have children because my sisters are have mental illnesses and cannot cope with life in general. The majority of my relatives are locked in turmoil as they quarrel over past events and transgressions. At best they treat each other with apathy without sucking the rest of us into their disputes. Fucking overzealous neighbours are conspiring to hurt and/or harm us in almost every conceivable way that is in within their power and thwart our plans and hopes for the future to build a new home, they delight whenever new problems hit us or whenever one of us gets taken to hospital.

People being nasty or miguided. This shit happens. I'm a very easy going person IRL. Neighbours start off bullish with me, but they calm down when they realise that I'll always consider them and take on their POV. I'm hopeless at it, but generosity breeds generosity. It's all basic phychology, and truth.

And these problems are just ours - there are countless dysfunctional families out there who've no doubt got it MUCH worse. I've lived long enough to witness countless horrors, atrocities and tragedies that have happened all over the world and are still occurring right now.

And what caused these horrors?

Was it caused by people? Choosing greed, power?

Do you conflate those with natural 'disasters': the earth doing what it does and people getting caught up in that? Peoples afflictions that are also nature running it's course?

Take a hint: With absolute certainty I can say no creator gives a flying fuck about my family or I.

All I see is you putting up two fingers. I don't see how that helps anything. Maybe the release of anger helps you. Someone to blame. Sure.... why not. God wants to heal you... isn't that more productive?

I could NEVER reconcile myself or forfeit what little dignity/self-respect I've retained, sacrifice my compassion for my fellow man, or surrender the humanity salvaged after from those who abused my trust, and then worship some deity.

Your dignity and self respect are tied up in hatred? Dude, let go of the sadness. You say you won't give up on your compassion for your fellow man, whilst at the same time harbouring hatred for others.