RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 5, 2018 at 8:46 pm
(This post was last modified: June 5, 2018 at 8:54 pm by Amarok.)
(June 5, 2018 at 8:38 pm)possibletarian Wrote:And before his death Hawkings professed his Atheism and Admitted his belief in a uncaused multiverse .(June 5, 2018 at 10:25 am)CDF47 Wrote:(June 5, 2018 at 8:42 am)possibletarian Wrote: None of that answered my questions, your answers seem to be a simply be a dogmatic assertion rather than a conversation.
But lets take one thing at a time, what makes you think the universe came from nothing ?
Quote:Hawking calculated infinite curvature at the start of the Big Bang. Infinite curvature means no time, no matter. Everything literally came from nothing. It's amazing.
I find it hilarious when you make quotes like this, you clearly don't retain the bits you don't like, on an interview about the same paper Hawkings said
Quote:"There was never a Big Bang that produced something from nothing. It just seemed that way from mankind's perspective," Hawking said, hinting that a lot of what we believe is derived from a human-centric perspective, which might limit the scope of human knowledge of the world.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new...171188.cms
And who also said ...
Quote:In the new work, The Grand Design, Professor Stephen Hawking argues that the Big Bang, rather than occurring following the intervention of a divine being, was inevitable due to the law of gravity.
In his 1988 book, A Brief History of Time, Hawking had seemed to accept the role of God in the creation of the universe. But in the new text, co-written with American physicist Leonard Mlodinow, he said new theories showed a creator is "not necessary".
*Bold mine*
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010...ng-creator
And you still haven't answered my question
Quote:Wrong, He is the primordial One. The Super-Intelligence that always was and always will be.Special pleading and a Taxi Cab fallacy .
Quote:You are right on that account, but universe is made out of temporal events, and many parts and continuous change and there is finite tuning that works to make things like stars and planets, and if it was just off by a bit, and so on and so forth, but most importantly, the universe is not necessarily so, meaning, it's a possible it be one way and it possible it be another and so we lucking out is now explained by billions or even infinite universes existing in parallel with no proof they exist, and it doesn't solve the issue at all. There is no reason to assume if there is infinite universes, they would all have different properties so another way to say this, is the properties in all universes may or may not have the fine tuning... but the question is then, why so lucky?Utter derp
And if it is made out of temporal events, then it's chain A state -> B state, and no matter how much data can be compatible with infinite time (universe expanding and contracting forever and ever from the past), it's mathematically and logically impossible.
In fact, something like a dollar bill, cannot create the world. IT cannot maintain life and the universe.
And laws themselves have to have implementer, and the movement from A->B to me is obviously due to a mover. Something is moving the universe, keeping all the laws in place, and brought out the design.
The eternal One however is Eternal, absolute, and One. There is no divisions in him, he is the source. He could not have been like this or that, there is only way to be the Absolute Eternal.
Quote:That's funny, I feel the same about many atheistsToo bad it only applies to you and your garbage
Quote:Would be nice if an atheist was right once each lifetime. JKNope were almost always right certainly on this thread id would give us a 99.9% correct rate . You on the other hand get a 1% percent .
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