(June 9, 2018 at 4:08 am)Mathilda Wrote:(June 9, 2018 at 12:01 am)Godscreated Wrote: Proof please, insinuations are not fact.
Oh right so it's OK to talk about Mr God as if he was a fact but when someone says the contrary you demand proof. Not even evidence but proof. Shows that you want to believe what you want to believe.
Wrong shows I know what I know and will accept nothing less.
Read the medical literature. Or the neuroscience literature and look at all the recorded effects of brain lesions. I have. Or have an operation where you are put under with anesthetic. I have. Or go to an old folk's home and speak to someone with Alzheimer's. I have. Or get drunk and take drugs. I have. See how the way you think and feel and the very essence of who you are changes because of how your brain is interfered with. I have.
Now give me equally compelling evidence that your god exists.[/quote]
Bold is mine and an answer to each inquiry. Those answers show I understand what I'm saying. I know for a fact God is real and that is the requirement of God from me and I have accepted this. It's your requirement too, that is if you desire to escape the eternal punishment you are making for yourself. Atheist accuse God of being an eternal punisher, He is not, why because you are the one causing your on punishment, no one has forced you, you've willingly chosen this fate unless you change. Like I said I've seen and done those things and know that they have nothing to do with the spirit/soul that resides within me.
(June 9, 2018 at 12:01 am)Godscreated Wrote: I take it you're speaking from experience, but wait, why you are alive you can't possibly know what you claim.
Mathilda Wrote:Science baby. It means that we can determine these things collectively rather than rely on individual experience.
There is no god. When you die, that's it. Nothing.
Science as you want it is fictional, I personally enjoy good science and look for it. Science will never disprove God as you seem to think it has already do and there are many atheist scientist that will tell you the same thing, baby. When science has no answer for the spirit/soul then there is no way it can prove nor disprove it. Like I have always said I can not prove God to you because you want what is not possible for me to give, you need to ask God, never know He might surprise you.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.