RE: Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
June 13, 2018 at 10:02 pm
(June 13, 2018 at 8:00 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: First of all, the U.S. is not Britain. There is no "tip of the spear" and no American plans to invade the Middle East in order to harvest their resources. And when we examine your own sources, even they refute you.The U.S took the role of the British empire after WW2. That's basic when we read the history of the world, one that I doubt you're ever heard of.. history as it seems, begins in 2003 with you.
Quote:Early British political support for an increased Jewish presence in the region of Palestine was based upon geopolitical calculations. ... Such efforts were premature, and did not succeed; only 24,000 Jews were living in Palestine on the eve of the emergence of Zionism within the world's Jewish communities in the last two decades of the 19th century.
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Scope of the national home "in Palestine"
The statement that such a homeland would be found "in Palestine" rather than "of Palestine" was also deliberate.[xxiv] The proposed draft of the declaration contained in Rothschild's 12 July letter to Balfour referred to the principle "that Palestine should be reconstituted as the National Home of the Jewish people." In the final text, following Lord Milner's amendment, the word "reconstituted" was removed and the word "that" was replaced with "in".
This text thereby avoided committing the entirety of Palestine as the National Home of the Jewish people, resulting in controversy in future years over the intended scope. This was clarified by the 1922 Churchill White Paper, which wrote that "the terms of the declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded 'in Palestine.'"
Wikipedia || Balfour declaration [emphasis mine]
Back to bit I quoted. I think the point was "the British bias towards the Jewish state; and the engineering of the whole crisis of the Middle East as a consequence of the British imperialism". That pretty much is the word "Geopolitical".
I was talking about the British empire's geopolitical means, that made it resort to Biblical prophecies to drop a smart bomb in the ruins of the Ottoman empire. That is a "geopolitical" interest for the west in Palestine.
Jews exist in Palestine because Britain sold the land to Zionists as if it was a farm owned by the British crown. How what you quoted destroy my view is beyond me.
History spoke.
Quote:An examination of actual history shows that the Arabs and Palestinians were their own worst enemy, and got hoist on their own petard. So if you have any evidence that America intends to invade the Middle East, then bring it. Otherwise, shut up with your crazy, bigoted reinvention of history and fact.
Quote: Wrote:Social and political developments in Europe convinced Jews they needed their own country, and their ancestral homeland seemed like the right place to establish it. European Jews — 90 percent of all Jews at the time — arrived at Zionism partly because of rising anti-Semitic persecution and partly because the Enlightenment introduced Jews to secular nationalism. Between 1896 and 1948, hundreds of thousands of Jews resettled from Europe to what was then British-controlled Palestine, including large numbers forced out of Europe during the Holocaust.
Many Arabs saw the influx of Jews as a European colonial movement, and the two peoples fought bitterly. The British couldn't control the violence, and in 1947 the United Nations voted to split the land into two countries. Almost all of the roughly 650,000 Jews went to the blue territory in the map to the right, and a majority of the Arab population (roughly twice the size of the Jewish community) went to the orange.
The Jewish residents accepted the deal. The Palestinians, who saw the plan as an extension of a long-running Jewish attempt push them out of the land, fought it. The Arab states of Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, and Syria all later declared war on Israel, as well (albeit not to defend the Palestinians).
Israeli forces defeated the Palestinian militias and Arab armies in a vicious conflict that turned 700,000 Palestinian civilians into refugees. The UN partition promised 56 percent of British Palestine for the Jewish state; by the end of the war, Israel possessed 77 percent — everything except the West Bank and the eastern quarter of Jerusalem (controlled by Jordan), as well as the Gaza Strip (controlled by Egypt). It left Israelis with a state, but not Palestinians.
How did Israel become a country in the first place? [emphasis mine]
Afghanistan? Iraq (Desert Storm 1,2 and invasion of 2003)? the proxy war in Syria? the UAV strikes in Yemen?
What Palestine saw, was an invasion aided and supported by the British cannons. One thing for certain: everybody knew the disaster that would result from this. Britain had lots of land. Why did it choose Palestine?
Weren't the "Zionists" secular? they should've think wisely and leave politics away from religion. Why did they chose a biblical prophecy to be their goal? that's not pretty secular; that's pretty Jewish. Just like Hammas is Islamic.