Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry

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No, contrary to your bullshit narrative, the U.S. did not take over any "role" from the British.  Your entire contention was that the British "role" was that of impregnating Arab lands with foreign Jews.  (1)Despite having been shown otherwise, you continue to push that narrative.  (2)Since the emergence of Israel as an independent state after World War II, the U.S. has supported Israel in the region, but since that's not your contention, that is irrelevant.  (3)From its inception as a state, Israel's enemies in Palestine and the greater Arab world have been repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot, from the initial Arab and Palestinian reactions which led to such brutal British reprisals as that of the 1936–1939 Arab revolt, to the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, to the bellicose acts of Egypt and her allies in provoking the Six-Day War.  (4)The U.S. has not assumed any "role" in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and quite the contrary, has many times attempted to broker peace between the two parties.

As for the rest of your ranting, again, no, the U.S. is not and has not been engaged in any war to steal the resources out from under the Arabs as your "tip of the spear" comment seems to imply.  As noted, the coalition had majority support of the Afghans, in addition to the fact that the U.S. was responding to the Taliban's harboring of terrorists who had just claimed 3,000 American lives in an unprovoked attack on the U.S.  I don't know about you, but I consider that a legitimate security threat, and not simply a ham-handed land grab as you seem to want to make it.  As for Iraq, while it is true that the fatal blow to the Hussein regime was a consequence of faulty intelligence, the end result was the sequelae of many preceding events, starting with the invasion of Kuwait in 1990.  Iraq's continued belligerence and failure to comply with UN sanctions ultimately led to the regime's downfall.  I actually lived through those events, Atlas, how old were you in 1990?  The U.S. has and has had legitimate interests in the region, and has pursued those interests with greater and lesser success.  What the U.S. has not done is either attempt to plunder the region for its resources, nor set up a series of puppet regimes as the Soviets did after World War II.  

So, no, the U.S. hasn't assumed any bogus "role" from Britain, nor is she poised to take over the Middle East for her resources.

Everybody has a grievance against somebody.  The Jews against the Babylonians and the Romans.  The Jews against the Arabs, both Christian and Muslim.  The Jews against the Nazis. The Arabs against the British.  The Arabs against "The Great Satan."  Only thing is, you seem to want to selectively dismiss certain grievances and embrace others.  And the reasons for that are as plain as day.  You'll distort any fact of history in support of that hateful agenda.  Despite your dishonest narrative, the U.S. is not "The Great Satan" (that honor belongs a little closer to you).  Israel has earned her supremacy in the Middle East by kicking ass and taking names, and that upsets you, so you want to point fingers anywhere but at the primary protagonists in the region.  That's both dishonest and despicable.  Israel is not any "tip of the spear," nor is the U.S. poised to rape the heartland of the Middle East.  Your narrative is simply false.

When you first came to the forum, I remarked that I thought you were both stupid and ignorant.  I guess now we'll have to add "crazy" and "bigoted" to your résumé.

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(1) The U.S did take a huge role in the creation of Israel:

Sections of the British press assumed that a Jewish state was intended even before the Declaration was finalized.[xix] In the United States the press began using the terms "Jewish National Home", "Jewish State", "Jewish republic" and "Jewish Commonwealth" interchangeably.[161]

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Weizmann had argued that the declaration would have three effects: it would swing Russia to maintain pressure on Germany's Eastern Front, since Jews had been prominent in the March Revolution of 1917; it would rally the large Jewish community in the United States to press for greater funding for the American war effort, underway since April of that year; and, lastly, that it would undermine German Jewish support for Kaiser Wilhelm II.[232]

The declaration spurred an unintended and extraordinary increase in the number of adherents of American Zionism; in 1914 the 200 American Zionist societies comprised a total of 7,500 members, which grew to 30,000 members in 600 societies in 1918 and 149,000 members in 1919.[xxv]

Without the U.S; Zionism and Israel would've been no more.

(2) As evidence shows, the support of Israel in the U.S began since 1914, which predates WW2 with a long time.

(3) In this, I agree with you. Israeli zionists always said: "Arabs don't read". It's true; Arabs failed to read from their Quran, up until human books. So they payed. So I agree with you. But they shot themselves in the groin; not the foot.

(4) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%..._relations

During the early 1960s, the U.S. government sought to establish a regional arms limitation agreement in the Middle East. The initiative lost steam in early 1965 after it was disclosed that the U.S. had been indirectly supplying weapons to Israel via West Germany since 1962, under the terms of a 1960 secret agreement to supply Israel with $80 million worth of armaments. The remainder of the agreement was fulfilled publicly, following its disclosure by the U.S., with Israel receiving shipments of M48 Patton tanks in 1965 and A-4E Skyhawk attack aircraft in 1968.[10]

In 1987, the United States granted Israel the status of major non-NATO ally, enabling it to compete equally with NATO and other US allies for contracts and purchase advanced US weapons systems. Israel became the largest recipient of United States military aid in the world (see military aid and procurement below).[3] In 1988, Reagan and Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir signed a memorandum of understanding to formalize and perpetuate the work of the bilateral US-Israel military, security and economic working groups.[12]

Jörmungand, do you seriously know what you're talking about?
America supported Israel since 1965 -officially- with weapons and training; and since the late 80s Israel was just like a NATO country.

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As for the rest of your ranting, again, no, the U.S. is not and has not been engaged in any war to steal the resources out from under the Arabs as your "tip of the spear" comment seems to imply.  As noted, the coalition had majority support of the Afghans, in addition to the fact that the U.S. was responding to the Taliban's harboring of terrorists who had just claimed 3,000 American lives in an unprovoked attack on the U.S.  I don't know about you, but I consider that a legitimate security threat, and not simply a ham-handed land grab as you seem to want to make it.  As for Iraq, while it is true that the fatal blow to the Hussein regime was a consequence of faulty intelligence, the end result was the sequelae of many preceding events, starting with the invasion of Kuwait in 1990.  Iraq's continued belligerence and failure to comply with UN sanctions ultimately led to the regime's downfall.  I actually lived through those events, Atlas, how old were you in 1990?  The U.S. has and has had legitimate interests in the region, and has pursued those interests with greater and lesser success.  What the U.S. has not done is either attempt to plunder the region for its resources, nor set up a series of puppet regimes as the Soviets did after World War II.  

The Iraq war says otherwise.
Who are these "Afghans" that agreed to the invasion? you speak as if Afghanistan was a democratic state with democratic elections !
It turned out that 9/11 was the job of Saudi Arabia officially:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Ag...rorism_Act
Right now there's a case against the Saudi terrorist act. Please; update your info.
In other words, the U.S government played you -and the whole world- like a chimp when it invaded Iraq and Afghanistan under the excuse of "Osama is there" and "9/11". BTW the CIA knows where did the attacks came from and who did it.
Ask yourself why the American government is still a friend to Saudi Arabia even though JASTA (Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism) is in place.

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So, no, the U.S. hasn't assumed any bogus "role" from Britain, nor is she poised to take over the Middle East for her resources.

Everybody has a grievance against somebody.  The Jews against the Babylonians and the Romans.  The Jews against the Arabs, both Christian and Muslim.  The Jews against the Nazis. The Arabs against the British.  The Arabs against "The Great Satan."  Only thing is, you seem to want to selectively dismiss certain grievances and embrace others.  And the reasons for that are as plain as day.  You'll distort any fact of history in support of that hateful agenda.  Despite your dishonest narrative, the U.S. is not "The Great Satan" (that honor belongs a little closer to you).  Israel has earned her supremacy in the Middle East by kicking ass and taking names, and that upsets you, so you want to point fingers anywhere but at the primary protagonists in the region.  That's both dishonest and despicable.  Israel is not any "tip of the spear," nor is the U.S. poised to rape the heartland of the Middle East.  Your narrative is simply false.

When you first came to the forum, I remarked that I thought you were both stupid and ignorant.  I guess now we'll have to add "crazy" and "bigoted" to your résumé.

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The direct explicit pointing to the contribution of the U.S can be found in the same link, below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration


The U.S played a very crucial role in the creation of Israel.

The Arabs themselves played an even bigger role in the creation of Israel than the U.S. ever had:

The 1948 Arab–Israeli War, or the First Arab–Israeli War, was fought between the State of Israel and a military coalition of Arab states over the control of Palestine, forming the second stage of the 1948 Palestine war.

There had been tension and conflict between the Arabs and the Jews, and between each of them and the British forces, ever since the 1917 Balfour Declaration and the 1920 creation of the British Mandate of Palestine. British policies dissatisfied both Arabs and Jews. The Arabs' opposition developed into the 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine, while the Jewish resistance developed into the Jewish insurgency in Palestine (1944–1947). In 1947 these ongoing tensions erupted into civil war, following the 29 November 1947 adoption of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine, which planned to divide Palestine into three areas: an Arab state, a Jewish state and the Special International Regime for the cities of Jerusalem and Bethlehem.

On 15 May 1948, the ongoing civil war transformed into an inter-state conflict between Israel and the Arab states, following the Israeli Declaration of Independence the previous day. A combined invasion by Egypt, Jordan and Syria, together with expeditionary forces from Iraq, entered Palestine – Jordan having declared privately to Yishuv emissaries on 2 May that it would abide by a decision not to attack the Jewish state. The invading forces took control of the Arab areas and immediately attacked Israeli forces and several Jewish settlements. The 10 months of fighting, interrupted by several truce periods, took place mostly on the former territory of the British Mandate and for a short time also in the Sinai Peninsula and southern Lebanon.

As a result of the war, the State of Israel controlled both the area that the UN General Assembly Resolution 181 had recommended for the proposed Jewish state as well as almost 60% of the area of Arab state proposed by the 1948 Partition Plan, including the Jaffa, Lydda and Ramle area, Galilee, some parts of the Negev, a wide strip along the Tel Aviv–Jerusalem road, West Jerusalem and some territories in the West Bank. Transjordan took control of the remainder of the former British mandate, which it annexed, and the Egyptian military took control of the Gaza Strip. At the Jericho Conference on 1 December 1948, 2,000 Palestinian delegates called for unification of Palestine and Transjordan as a step toward full Arab unity. No state was created for the Palestinian Arabs.

The conflict triggered significant demographic change throughout the Middle East. Around 700,000 Palestinian Arabs fled or were expelled from their homes in the area that became Israel, and they became Palestinian refugees in what they refer to as Al-Nakba ("the catastrophe"). In the three years following the war, about 700,000 Jews immigrated to Israel, with many of them having been expelled from their previous countries of residence in the Middle East.

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War]Wikipedia || 1948 Arab–Israeli War

From my view, you are the crazy one, because after JASTA you still believe that the Taliban and Osama were "the planners" of 9/11.
I think Satan himself would be embarrassed to be linked to your opinion.