@ WC
Everything from nothing - this is a material supposition I made. It has nothing to do with my beliefs. The Xtian bible says nothing about material creation.
Faith in God - you thought that I thought you had any???
I find it hard to believe that you would be so subservient to the secular world and then express a violently opposing view when considering an infallible judge. Something is seriously mixed up in your head.
You're arguing against a force for good being ultimately successful. That goes against my personal experience.
Aesops fable:
The wind and the Sun were disputing which was the stronger. Suddenly they saw a traveller coming down the road, and the Sun said: “I see a way to decide our dispute. Whichever of us can cause that traveller to take off his cloak shall be regarded as the stronger You begin.” So the Sun retired behind a cloud, and the Wind began to blow as hard as it could upon the traveller. But the harder he blew the more closely did the traveller wrap his cloak round him, till at last the Wind had to give up in despair. Then the Sun came out and shone in all his glory upon the traveller, who soon found it too hot to walk with his cloak on.
Everything from nothing - this is a material supposition I made. It has nothing to do with my beliefs. The Xtian bible says nothing about material creation.
Faith in God - you thought that I thought you had any???
I find it hard to believe that you would be so subservient to the secular world and then express a violently opposing view when considering an infallible judge. Something is seriously mixed up in your head.
You're arguing against a force for good being ultimately successful. That goes against my personal experience.
Aesops fable:
The wind and the Sun were disputing which was the stronger. Suddenly they saw a traveller coming down the road, and the Sun said: “I see a way to decide our dispute. Whichever of us can cause that traveller to take off his cloak shall be regarded as the stronger You begin.” So the Sun retired behind a cloud, and the Wind began to blow as hard as it could upon the traveller. But the harder he blew the more closely did the traveller wrap his cloak round him, till at last the Wind had to give up in despair. Then the Sun came out and shone in all his glory upon the traveller, who soon found it too hot to walk with his cloak on.

