RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 10:39 pm
(June 22, 2018 at 4:17 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:So what, you're not happy with democracy because the people that voted didn't vote for the person you wanted? I'm not saying there aren't problems with democracy, it's two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. And I certainly don't like our two party system. But I will take a democracy over a facist regime, religious monarchy, oppressive dictatorship, or just about any other system out there. What is your alternative? I'm curious to know.(June 21, 2018 at 11:53 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: The system deserves disrespect? What Democracy? Voting? Because that is the system that put Trump into office. And I think a big reason for that happening, including the hidden surge of voters not seen in pre election polls, is the disrespect of that system aka the people that voted for Trump. If you think continuing down that same path is going to work well come mid terms and 2020 I would strongly urge you to reconsider.
And again I'll say, the comments that came from Samantha Bee and Peter Fonda were not directed at Trump, the office, or "the system." They were directed at his children. Where in the past has it been remotely appropriate for any previous president's family to receive that kind of rampant hatred with no consequences?
You think if it has votes and you can pin the label “democracy” on a system then that system automatically becomes its own justification?
What exactly is this democracy and voting? It is the system that works by rewarding the group or coalition that is most effective in disenfranchising those whose interests do not coincide with those of the group or coalition. It is a system that works by pandering to the basest and most paranoid instincts of the electorate in order to correl the basest and most paranoid of the electorate into the service of those same groups and coalitions. It is a system that claims justification from the alledged wisdom of the people while doing its utmost to pander to the urge of its people to be smug and satisfied with their own ignorance and stupidity.
It’s a sausage with a sticker labeled democracy
What exactly is the justification of this sausage? That there is voting and there is that sticker?
Maybe if you think what is in the sausage and what effect there would be in eating it is less important than the sticker.
That may be a merely irresponsible point of view had the sausage not put a trump at the button controlling 1/2 of the world’s nuclear weapons.
This sausage with the sticker “democracy” on it has now by that strayed dangerously close to being a cynide pill not for just that “hidden surge” of voters, not just for Americans, but for much of humanity.
So “If you think continuing down that same path is going to work well come mid terms and 2020 I would strongly urge you to reconsider.”. Reconsider what? Let that surge of voter who has turn the sausage into something beginning to resemble a collective suicide pack not have another go?
I'm urging you to reconsider treating every single person that doesn't share your worldview like garbage. In this post alone, you've said that people that voted are being pandered to by base and paranoid instincts like they're neanderthals. Like they're just rubes that aren't capable of their own critical thought unless it aligns with your vision. You've called them smug, ignorant, and stupid. Just heartwarming. And the problem is that your attitude is not isolated to just you, it's shared by many people on the left that have been having a complete meltdown at anything Trump does. I swear if Trump sneezed and didn't cover his nose it would be the main headline on CNN. You are completely disenfranchising people that would elect Trump out of office in 2020, and instead helping to secure him a second term. Have you noticed how Trump's approval rating has been on a steady incline since the start of this year?