RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 10:42 pm
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(June 22, 2018 at 10:04 pm)Shell B Wrote: It's not antagonism toward criticism. I don't even consider myself centrist, as much as I consider myself not left or right. I'm literally curious about what you mean because I don't understand your meaning.1. I mean centerism is a position it's not simply not a position or not on a team it is a political philosophy in it's own right . And some people who ascribe to that philosophy act as bad as the people they criticize . So my comment that i'm just as sick of centrists reflects that .
Of course centrists can be vicious. People are vicious. What I'm saying is that I don't feel compelled to excuse any shitty behavior because of the side I'm on, because I am on no side. I don't have to defend Trump or Fonda, because neither are my teammates.
What's wrong with centrism? What's wrong with radical centrism? Nothing. It just isn't the left, so you can't possibly be okay with it. It's funny that my criticism is only against far right and left big mouths, but you took it personally. Do you think what I say applies to you?
2. I was saying to Road who was say he was tired of the left and rights tactics .I replied i'm just as sick of the same of centrist .I don't know how much simpler i can make it.
3. If you not a centrist why the heck are debating me on centrism for ?
4.What's wrong with centrism well considering political philosophers and commentators have been pecking away at it for over century plenty . Some criticize it for being Self defeating ,Vague ,Inconsistent,Wishy washy ,Indecisive,That throughout the 20th century it has been a buffer for violent ideologies and ironically enough in it's radical form with thinkers like Noel Pearson's ,Divisive, Out of touch,Idealist, Borderline elitist .So their is far from nothing wrong with it .
5.I couldn't care less that's not the left nor do i take it personally i don't know were you get that idea from ?
(June 22, 2018 at 10:14 pm)Shell B Wrote: Meh. There are worse things to be than a radical centrist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism
You did read the criticism section right ?
And really only a wikipedia article
(June 22, 2018 at 10:17 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote:1. You did read the criticism section right and the links and really again wikipedia ?(June 22, 2018 at 10:14 pm)Shell B Wrote: Meh. There are worse things to be than a radical centrist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism
Right? Oh, the horror!
Nevertheless, I maintain that 'radical centrism' is a grotesque abuse of language, even if it is a program of action I can get behind.
2. No it's not it's a perfectly valid use of the word
I find this hilarious that one off hand comment to road about how i'm just just as sick of centrists being jerks somehow manifested into a controversy
(June 22, 2018 at 10:41 pm)Fireball Wrote:You did read the post right were they explain that(June 22, 2018 at 10:17 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Right? Oh, the horror!
Nevertheless, I maintain that 'radical centrism' is a grotesque abuse of language, even if it is a program of action I can get behind.
Agreed, "radical" in this context is inflammatory, to say the least. Here are people trying to develop a rational solution, and they are called "radical". Just more bad rhetoric.
(June 22, 2018 at 10:41 pm)Fireball Wrote:You did read the post were they state why it's radical compared to other forms of centerism .(June 22, 2018 at 10:17 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Right? Oh, the horror!
Nevertheless, I maintain that 'radical centrism' is a grotesque abuse of language, even if it is a program of action I can get behind.
Agreed, "radical" in this context is inflammatory, to say the least. Here are people trying to develop a rational solution, and they are called "radical". Just more bad rhetoric.
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